Hey all. I have a 13 week old pup and she very possessive with objects. Throw dummy's and she tries to escape. Sticks in yard she runs away with. She just wants to run off and have things to herself. What do I do?
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Hey all. I have a 13 week old pup and she very possessive with objects. Throw dummy's and she tries to escape. Sticks in yard she runs away with. She just wants to run off and have things to herself. What do I do?
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Possessiveness shows dominance but also shows confidence. Get a rolled up sock or a paint roller and play in the hallway give no escape route except back to you. He is a baby. Keep it to three or four tosses then stop even if they want more. It's hard to do this but you need to. When the pup returns to you allow him to hold the sock for a second or to with lots of praise. Really get into it high voice scratch ribs. When outdoors get a rope. Reel in the pup giving the here or come command even if the bumper is dropped. Once the pup is next to you repeat the high voice and rib scratching praise. Do Not Chase the pup. keep up the praise and the pup will realize either its doing something right or your praise means more than the retrieve itself
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I pretty much stop throwing things that I don't think she'll retrieve. I might try Ken Bora's main technique (rope, if you don't know) and that could work. Most likely I do a lot of ball in the hall until she get's in the habit of bringing things back in the hallway. Make sure you make a big deal out of it when she returns to you. even if she left the retrievable object back down the hall a ways. When she's been doing ball in the hall for awhile, then I try to integrate a few very easy retrieves outside and I would use a rope. She may not retrieve it but she will come back.
Don't get mad at her 'cause she might think you are getting mad 'cause she picked up whatever you threw for her. Continue to make a big deal out of it when she comes back even if it's without the bumper/tennis ball or whatever and you had to pull her in with the rope. She's still with you and that's where you want her to be.
Don't get mad at her 'cause she might think you are getting mad 'cause she picked up whatever you threw for her. Continue to make a big deal out of it when she comes back even if it's without the bumper/tennis ball or whatever and you had to pull her in with the rope. She's still with you and that's where you want her to be.
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I don't chase her but any chance I get I try and get her coming to me. She is really curious in the yard and its hard to get her attention. I figure she is just being a puppy. At times she reallys comes charging back hard but mostly not
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Trying not an option. She must come back. No wiggle room here. Don't set her up for failure: with or without bird/object is okay. She will possibly drop when you tug on the cord (rope) That will change. Here means here---don't give the command unless you can enforce it. I also understand fun stuff distractions etc... at that age, clapping, whoo whoo, but DON'T CALL HERE in a situation you can't control. Good luck with the pup!
My 14 week old is doing the same thing. I am following Hillmann and he says not to worry about it at this time. Just make sure she is crazy to go get the dummy. Look up "Sit+ Here commands" on youtube by maryhill. In this video Hillman explains this. T-pines just gave me this info.
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At 13 weeks the prey drive is most important. Not coming back can be addressed later with a Ken Bora rope.
It doesn't sound to me like something to worry about. As the others said it's check cord time. In the meantime teach the hear command with treats.
Also don't worry about her keeping things other than bumpers(she shouldn't get birds until this phase is through). But don't throw ANYTHING other than bumpers for her either.
Bert
Also don't worry about her keeping things other than bumpers(she shouldn't get birds until this phase is through). But don't throw ANYTHING other than bumpers for her either.
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Hallway idea is a good one. and... surely a rope...
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My pup is 19 weeks and doing the same thing. If he's not retrieving he loves coming back to me, but the second something is thrown it's all over. It's his and he's not giving it up, I use the check cord and have been reeling him in for three weeks now. Now that he knows he's coming regardless (checkcord) he spits the dummy out before he gets to me. I just started the hold portion (also following hillman) and he's not as compliant as nick, lol. He's got both paws going at the dummy trying to get it out of his mouth. We've only had one session, the second tonight of introducing hold. Raven my other lab was easy to teach hold to. I'm thinking of stopping and cc to here and then beginning again. I've tried walking off, clapping my hands, etc and he doesn't seem to care. I'm sure it's my body language and the way he's reading it I just don't know what Im doing that's causing this.
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Be happy she gets the bumper and wants it. Its every dogs natural instinct to get the bird to initially eat it too!!!! This is good. Keep throws to minimum and work hard on the "Here" command. Use treats if necessary. More "Here" command and fewer bumpers. She'll connect the dots!
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Like you mentioned, I would consider this dog for early cc training to come. At 19 weeks, I'd probably go through the entire cc at this time. It's a month, month and a half earlier than what I consider normal, but his dog is showing more independence than lots. Getting early good habits ingrained can't come any sooner.
Food for thought.
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sounds great! if i keep at it shell come around. her prey drive is very high. she is very mouthy and is willing to run to anything i throw. she doesnt really have a hard time pick things up its just that she wants it and its her only. When you say reel her in...what does this mean. Do i pull hard when shes pulling away. She keeps the dummy in her mouthy but uses every bit of strength to pull back on check cord. so I have resorted to stepping on the cord and trying to encourage her back. So to sum it up. how hard does a guy reel her in when she is defiant?
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I have a different take on this. You don't have a puppy showing dominance, you have a puppy that is displaying extreme independence. Did you see the puppy interacting with its littermates? First hint might have been there.
In any event Howard's advice as always is good advice.
BTW, if I'm right, you will have to stay on top of this for a long time.
In any event Howard's advice as always is good advice.
BTW, if I'm right, you will have to stay on top of this for a long time.
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Use as much force as needed to get the desired response. When pups is heading in your direction ease up and guide them in rather than pull hard. When the pup wants to run away give enough needed to bring her back in your direction. I know it's kind of vague but every pup is different.
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The pup is out of balance. Which of these needs enhancing - retrieving, "birdiness", focus, control and/or responsiveness? Don't expect these to function well together unless the pup is in balance. Focus and control are best attained with a responsive pup.
Quit throwing marks for a couple of weeks (totally) and work on what the pup needs. Then gradually add them back into "the mix" with the idea of maintaining balance.
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Kwicklabs is right. CC slowly reel in with an exciting HERE. HERE. HERE. When the tunas on your lap praise her to death. Walk away. CC in hand. And do it again. That should exercise should precede expectant a dog with a bumper to run back to you. She'll put it together. Connect the dots. Minimize confusion. Have a teaching chronology.
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This is why I have a pro lined up from day one. For six months he instructed me on what to work on and what to expect. All this before she went into training. If more did this dogs wouldn't start out screwed up by the owners. I learned the hard way years back.
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