[hotel4dogs]

Probably a silly question, but here goes....
Ran a seasoned set-up with my boy today. On his way back in, we fired a diversion shot and sent up a diversion bird (winger) that landed almost right in his path.
As soon as he heard the shot, he sat, original bird in mouth. We've quite recently done a little bit of work on getting him steady to flush and shot for upland. He waited to be released. Then when he was called in he came in smartly and briskly, no problem.
Would that be considered bad in HRC, or would the judges realize that the dog heard a shot and planted his rear on the ground as he's been taught?
How about in AKC?
Just curious.

 

[FOM]

I would call that "perfect"!

But I don't judge AKC or HRC HTs...but then again I don't see how a judge would dink a dog for doing that.

 

[Angie B]

Like Lainee said, "prefect"!!!

Angie

 

[Trevor Toberny]

Wish mine would do that

 

[hotel4dogs]

(obviously I am very new to this stuff)
I didn't know if he would get marked down for not returning all the way promptly when a diversion was fired and thrown!

 

[FOM]

(obviously I am very new to this stuff)
I didn't know if he would get marked down for not returning all the way promptly when a diversion was fired and thrown!

If I were judging you wouldn't get marked down - and come to think of it when I ran Flash in HRC and he sat on the diversion I don't think he was ever marked down...if anything the judges were impressed, but that was so long ago...

 

[Angie B]

(obviously I am very new to this stuff)
I didn't know if he would get marked down for not returning all the way promptly when a diversion was fired and thrown!

Not at all. What better way to mark the diversion bird then by sitting and watching fall?

Angie

 

[Kevinismybrother]

according to AKC and HRC, I am qualified as a judge, but according to Lainee, it doesn't mean I am a qualified judge;-)

But - you would pass no problem.

 

[Duckquilizer]

Not a judge either, but I'd call that better than running on in past it.

 

[duckdawg27]

HRC Judge...yes that would be great!!! Dog is being tested for "switching" so he did not. Good Dog.

 

[Karen Klotthor]

I judge both AKC and HRC and that would be a very nice pass. No rule said he can not sit on shot. He just cannot switch (except in season he ca switch but it is a mark down.) I had a dog that no matter how much you call him in he had to go and check out where the Div landed but he would not switch. Never got failed for that.

 

[Sundown49 aka Otey B]

That would be a pass in my book. I judge in AKC and have ran many HRC tests and had one of my dogs do that. HRCH Black Diamond Billy The Kid (RIP) He actually was hit in the face with the Diversion and sat thru it.:......Dang I miss that dawg...

 

[Mistyriver]

Pass in my book with no mark down and I judge season all the time. I would say nice job and dog!

 

[BrettG]

Everytime I've seen a dog do this in hrc the judges commend dog and handler
On job well done, however, one of the worst judging arguments I saw was on an outgoing diversion where the dog sat to shot, watched the bird to the ground then took a cast from the handler and continued his line to the blind. One judge wanted to charge for a pop and the other 2 didn't. Boy it got ugly.

 

[Mistyriver]

Everytime I've seen a dog do this in hrc the judges commend dog and handler
On job well done, however, one of the worst judging arguments I saw was on an outgoing diversion where the dog sat to shot, watched the bird to the ground then took a cast from the handler and continued his line to the blind. One judge wanted to charge for a pop and the other 2 didn't. Boy it got ugly.

I do not see that can be possible since the diversion has to be on the return of the blind and not on the way.

VII. A diversionary bird can be thrown after the walkup, blind, or last retrieve of a double mark. If a Seasoned Hunting Retriever switches to the diversionary bird, it will not fail but will be scored lower by the Judge. The hunting retriever shall retrieve the diversionary bird.

 

[hotel4dogs]

Thanks so much for the replies!

 

[Driftwoodlabs]

I do not see that can be possible since the diversion has to be on the return of the blind and not on the way.

VII. A diversionary bird can be thrown after the walkup, blind, or last retrieve of a double mark. If a Seasoned Hunting Retriever switches to the diversionary bird, it will not fail but will be scored lower by the Judge. The hunting retriever shall retrieve the diversionary bird.

Three judges??? What venue was this?

As for the original question...as a judge...SWEET! LOVE TO SEE IT!! And as mentioned, it's the switch we're testing for.

 

[red devil]

As another HRC judge - excellent. Many finished trainers/testers will sot their dog when the diversion bird is flighted. Also bird is not supposed to drop in the path of the dog. It is ideally thrown 45 deg to dog's return path. Not supposed being the operative words. If your dog "switches" it is not an automatic fail as it is in finished.

Please note AKC defines switching differently to HRC. AKC switching refers to a dog establishing a hunt in one Aof then moving to another w/o recovering the bird.

 

[robertnla]

X2 on the pass. Love to see the dog sit. Have one myself. I don't teach it but if I get it I'll give um a GOOD DOG!!!!!!!!!!

 

[hotel4dogs]

Thanks guys! I did give him a "good dog", so I guess I did the right thing.
So much to learn.