[Pete]

I'm contemplating using treats to train my new puppy when it arrives this fall. What other good resources are out there to better understand this. The youtube video on "It's yer choice" is great. I remember seeing another one on hold but can't find it anymore.

Here are a few more idea's what you can do with soft treats. One of the reasons treats are used are,,it puts the dog in drive. and dogs learn faster and more enthusiastically in drive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-2AU9qzA5k

Pete

 

[Pete]

That could be one of the worst training demonstrations I have ever seen. But thanks for posting.

he! He! Your welcome and you made my evening.,,, by the way its not a demonstration. Just vidoeing a puppy learning some behaviors. I will admit ,,I'm not made for prime time. ,,,but that puppy might be (.
pete

 

[Pete]

Pete is an excellent trainer and a gentleman. Much can be learned from him.

Why not specifically state what you don't like about the video?

Thanks George,,, I appreciate that. I think a lot of Colonel assessment is correct. But here is the riddle. I put half the time in training my dogs due to customers coming first,,but ALL of the started dogs I have sold have gotten great reviews,,they really like all the things they can do well at a very young age. SO My question is not so much what I am doing wrong ,but what is it i'm doing right that must be what is bringing the results. It appears to be hidden,,because even when I watch myself I think "what a goober"
I have watched Steve's dog;s also and I will tell you there is A LOT he is doing right .
Just a little tip on video's,,we all do it wrong. A few years back I got to watch some of the top trainers on film,,guess what they also did some things what they said not to do.

pete

 

[Pete]

I don't think this is a fair constructive statement. Usually people post to be helpful whether one agrees or not! That is the learning experience. You choose what to accept or not! Possibly less people will post their videos.JMHO

I think if he told me why it sucked so bad then may be I can do better in the future if I actually agreed with his assessment.
My wife shoots these youtube video's for me for 2 reasons.
1 So customers can see where there dog is at in training.
2 So buyers looking for started dogs can see what the dog is like. I only have a couple of video's of my personal dogs on there
but sometimes I post these to give other people idea's. Why let them sit in the archives when someone can use them to amuse me. If I was a serious youtuber I would dress more professionally so I could step in dog poop with style.
I like being critiqued over the internet.,,,,, well because for me its not only entertaining but people really do see things I can't.
Pete

 

[Pete]

[QUOTEThe only thing in my opinion, is the "overcooking" of treats, too many in Pete's case and perhaps throwing the treat, something I haven't done, but, never say never in dog. These two guys, in my opinion, would be excellent puppy raisers unless there is a anger management issue they are hiding. Past the pre-basics, would have to see their next level ,of course that would be basics, then view the product at the end of basics. Too many hyper, easily frustrated, angry type folks, handicapping the future of their dogs. Thanks for the videos.][/QUOTE]

I've probably come close to running the gamut on steady and return to heel as far as different ways of approaching it. So far for me this method beats every one hands down. This is peaches first time with this little approach. I now use it for all ages I like it so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxkHvrObyW8 This is a few sessions later. She is learning to lock and focus.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZhnpSylSQo

And here is her littermate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwsR5hwQbHU






And Willies right ,,stay away from my plate and somebody please get me a couple more sleeves.
Pete

 

[Pete]

[QUOTEThe only thing in my opinion, is the "overcooking" of treats, too many in Pete's case and perhaps throwing the treat, something I haven't done, but, never say never in dog. These two guys, in my opinion, would be excellent puppy raisers unless there is a anger management issue they are hiding. Past the pre-basics, would have to see their next level ,of course that would be basics, then view the product at the end of basics. Too many hyper, easily frustrated, angry type folks, handicapping the future of their dogs. Thanks for the videos.]

I've probably come close to running the gamut on steady and return to heel as far as different ways of approaching it. So far for me this method beats every one hands down. This is peaches first time with this little approach. I now use it for all ages I like it so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxkHvrObyW8 This is a few sessions later. She is learning to lock and focus.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZhnpSylSQo

And here is her littermate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwsR5hwQbHU
This way you can see some type of progression.







And Willies right ,,stay away from my plate and somebody please get me a couple more sleeves.
Pete[/QUOTE]

 

[Pete]

Still in what I would call pre-basics would like to see the end product from both videos. Just can't believe in my opinion, that type of training down the road, would get you too much? for what my goals are..still my post stands for puppy raising. I don't think there are any new mousetraps, at what point does the "precision" take place? Just asking, keeping a open mind. What level are you training for? gundogs, hunt tests or field trials? or all of the aforementioned.

If your question was directed at me
Yes of coarse,,,pre basics.
yes I train gun dogs and ht dogs. I also train my dogs for ft,,but I don't run as many as I like.

I never start with precision,,what ever precision I am able to come up with comes together at around 2 or 2 and a half. I whittle away at my exaggerated movements over time to the exaggeration is gone. Every thing comes together near the end., Customer dogs are different because I am on a time frame.

 

[Pete]

Earl
I couldn't copy and paste your quote #41
This is sort of what the end looks like although a guy could go further and through water and take it as far as they want. I used up the big end of the field this morning so I did this little triple. Just to show you sort of what the end might look like,,,only further and more tec. Can't show you under these conditions.
A glitch to work out is the staring at the gunner on the 3rd gun. From my perspective I want the dog locking on the bird not me,,,but when handling it on a blind its obvious where they should be looking.

Thats why eye contact is not always a good thing. It has been a couple months since she did much of this. The early puppy training is what really sinches it up.
Pete



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee4AyAt6LA4

 

[Pete]

also Mary Lynn at the end of that video I threw in what I thought you were asking on the other thread where the gentilman ( sorry don't know his name) is holding up a bumper and talking about sit. Tomarro I will send you a flattie video on that other thread, which I think will answer your question.
Pete

 

[Pete]

You can also throw a bunch of down the shore marks when the weather gets better and handle your dog without breaking momentum. You will still have to finish that exercise with the dog next to you,,,but it puts you a head of the game.

Pete