[golfandhunter]

Bon

Yes it was, but, dog food discussion let to a discussion about a dear dog that died and an "accused" irresponsible corporation and then eventually to a disrespectful treatment of RTFers and all that it drew out. I suspect that the next dawn brought a sobriety to the whole discussion that may have some wishing some retractions. But that happens all the time here. And coupled with the fraility of the Internet for truly communicating what we say and feel, it's all an unfortunate deal. I would hope that both principals will be part of the RTF future.

I think it was Angie who said "they come and they go". Yes, they do, but I would be very concerned about who goes for good and who comes for no good.

RTF has seen some great RTF contributers give it up. That is most unfortunate -it was never because of dog food and not even about dogs!

Dennis, I don't know if Glen will come back, he is very upset.
I am fortunate that I train and trial with Glen and Jen every week.
Glen, follows you and Mike like religion and those of us that train with him are lucky.
We run set ups from TRT and Ret. Online every week that Glen plans.
Lets hope that Glen will come back to continue help the folks on this forum.

Sincerely,
Gregg Leonard

 

[golfandhunter]

Can you quote anything that I said which was directed at a person with intent to shame or harm? "Southern Hospitality" as I've been taught would preclude someone form reducing themselves to juvenile name calling while having a discussion. I would never say Glenn was an "idiot". Why would he say that about me? Is that showing a good level of "Southern Hospitality"? If I disagree with Glenn about a subject, I'm enough of a man to respect his position based upon Glenn's experiences and knowledge. What gives him the right to call me bad names because he disagrees with my opinion? Is Glenn a holier man than I? Does Glenn's opionion have superior virtue over my opinion? Shall I be damned because I disagree with him?

There are a few "Big Boys" in my neighborhood. I enjoy watching their work and respect their knowledge. Glenn's posts in the mentioned thread and a bunch of others I've read are far from anyting I'd call "Southern Hospitality". The QAA whining thread isn't very hospitable towards the judges Glenn ran under nor were his comments and dialog with some folks on the marking thread.

I chose to be rather polite with folks. Glenn does not. Sorry to be blunt but, my MO "Southern Roots" has me calling the pitch like I see it.

Dude, you don't get it, not even close

Gregg

 

[golfandhunter]

Too true BBG.

How many times have we seen this behavior over the yeas? Very few have stayed away. Just makes themselves look bad when they come back. If I need a break I just step away from the computer. Whether for a day, week, or longer. Apparently some folks are not able to resist not posting every day. Self control can be a wonderful thi

WRL

You people just don't get it.

 

[thebigcat]

and all this was about dog food...seriously people, dog food

I was going to say the exact same thing.

 

[Wayne Nutt]

Gregg, When you see Glen ask him to come back for me. I always appreciated his posts.

 

[HPL]

I didn't see the original thread. Sorry to hear that it devolved into something more at home on POTUS, but what dog food sparked the problem and what was that issue? I have been trying to find a food that won't make the knucklehead itch and a couple of the blue buffalo foods have shown some promise but I don't want to accidentally feed something that is suspected of poisoning someone's dog.

 

[HarryWilliams]

You people just don't get it.

g&h, I give ya credit for sticking up for your mate. But in the big picture of life, you very well could be one of "You people". 16 Trillion in debt. Our dogs are getting older every day. Fighting about what someone posted seems closer to trivial than earth shattering. Tip my glass to tomorrow. Harry

 

[huntinman]

Dog food or no dog food... When an issue arises and Chris has to get involved (speaking from personal experience), it's time to realize you have gone too far and maybe put your ego in your back pocket.

Stop peeing on the fire hydrant long enough to realize that the resource is bigger than one person and will keep on clicking whether you are here or not.

 

[22899]

Gregg, When you see Glen ask him to come back for me. I always appreciated his posts.

Make that 2 of us....

 

[22899]

You can say what Ya want about me,,, My son (big boy) My wife,, (she could kick all your arses) My relatives with 3 rows a teeth.. BUT,,,,

You say somethin about my dog,, or the way I care for her,, or the circumstances of her death,, in a dis- respectful way ,, And you and I are gonna fight.

I will fight dirty, mean, and anyway I can,to get you to realise,, you dont mess with my dogs..
Its just the way I bet most of us are wired.

Hot topic!! Best to leave it alone.

Glen.... Talk to Chris,,,, come back!!! PLEASE!!!

 

[RF2]

Happy should change his name. He is far from happy.

+1. I will miss Glen's contributions to this forum.

 

[John Robinson]

Dennis, I don't know if Glen will come back, he is very upset.
I am fortunate that I train and trial with Glen and Jen every week.
Glen, follows you and Mike like religion and those of us that train with him are lucky.
We run set ups from TRT and Ret. Online every week that Glen plans.
Lets hope that Glen will come back to continue help the folks on this forum.

Sincerely,
Gregg Leonard

Gregg,

First of all please try to convince Glen to return even if he truly feels he's been wronged. As someone without any personal stake in this issue I read that thread and could see it going downhill as it was a very personal issue to Glen (he basically feels his dog was murdered), and anyone sticking up for the dog food people, or even being a devil's advocate, was in Glen's mind as guilty as the people who killed his dog. That said, I believe he let his anger take over and posted some comments that went too far. Gooser and I went at it a few years ago to the point he put me on "Ignore", that was the point where I realized I had gone too far and felt terrible and did all I could to apologize. I didn't apologize because I felt I was wrong in the debate, I apologized because I relentlessly egged Gooser on way further than need be.

Please tell Glen that apologizing for his somewhat out of line comments does not contradict his belief and well argued point that Diamond corportation is responsible for killing his dog.

John

 

[huntinman]

Gregg,

First of all please try to convince Glen to return even if he truly feels he's been wronged. As someone without any personal stake in this issue I read that thread and could see it going downhill as it was a very personal issue to Glen (he basically feels his dog was murdered), and anyone sticking up for the dog food people, or even being a devil's advocate, was in Glen's mind as guilty as the people who killed his dog. That said, I believe he let his anger take over and posted some comments that went too far. Gooser and I went at it a few years ago to the point he put me on "Ignore", that was the point where I realized I had gone too far and felt terrible and did all I could to apologize. I didn't apologize because I felt I was wrong in the debate, I apologized because I relentlessly egged Gooser on way further than need be.

Please tell Glen that apologizing for his somewhat out of line comments does not contradict his belief and well argued point that Diamond corportation is responsible for killing his dog.John

Well said...

 

[Bridget Bodine]

VERY well said , Glenn we all understand your emotion about the loss of your dog!!

Gregg,

First of all please try to convince Glen to return even if he truly feels he's been wronged. As someone without any personal stake in this issue I read that thread and could see it going downhill as it was a very personal issue to Glen (he basically feels his dog was murdered), and anyone sticking up for the dog food people, or even being a devil's advocate, was in Glen's mind as guilty as the people who killed his dog. That said, I believe he let his anger take over and posted some comments that went too far. Gooser and I went at it a few years ago to the point he put me on "Ignore", that was the point where I realized I had gone too far and felt terrible and did all I could to apologize. I didn't apologize because I felt I was wrong in the debate, I apologized because I relentlessly egged Gooser on way further than need be.

Please tell Glen that apologizing for his somewhat out of line comments does not contradict his belief and well argued point that Diamond corportation is responsible for killing his dog.

John

 

[Renee P.]

I personally find the jokes about beavers and comments along similar lines more inappropriate than anything Glenn wrote.

What a shame when someone like Glenn feels he should no longer contribute here.

 

[22899]

Mr Robinson and I did lock horns awhile back...

Passion can be a very powerful entity.

I hope someday to shake Johns hand.

I appreciate his contribution to this board. He is Not ignored by me.

The Glens and Johns and Teds, and Eds and Dennis types, are the backbone of this discussion board. It's very disconcerting to start loosing them.


Gooser

 

[John Robinson]

Mr Robinson and I did lock horns awhile back...

Passion can be a very powerful entity.

I hope someday to shake Johns hand.

I appreciate his contribution to this board. He is Not ignored by me.

The Glens and Johns and Teds, and Eds and Dennis types, are the backbone of this discussion board. It's very disconcerting to start loosing them.


Gooser

Thanks Gooser, I to am looking forward to the day I get to meet you. On top of the dog stuff am also a gun nut, mostly old wood and blue steel. I have lots of family in Colorado so it might be sooner than you think. Like you, I also hope Glen returns soon, that thread seemed way out of character for him.

John

 

[Miriam Wade]

Gregg,

First of all please try to convince Glen to return even if he truly feels he's been wronged. As someone without any personal stake in this issue I read that thread and could see it going downhill as it was a very personal issue to Glen (he basically feels his dog was murdered), and anyone sticking up for the dog food people, or even being a devil's advocate, was in Glen's mind as guilty as the people who killed his dog. That said, I believe he let his anger take over and posted some comments that went too far. Gooser and I went at it a few years ago to the point he put me on "Ignore", that was the point where I realized I had gone too far and felt terrible and did all I could to apologize. I didn't apologize because I felt I was wrong in the debate, I apologized because I relentlessly egged Gooser on way further than need be.

Please tell Glen that apologizing for his somewhat out of line comments does not contradict his belief and well argued point that Diamond corportation is responsible for killing his dog.

John

I think yoiu speak for a lot of us. If my dog had suffered the same fate I likely would have let my anger take over if I felt the company was being defended. Some of us are more emotional than others. Some folks are just plain mean spirited. Glenn is neither one of those. He is one of the few who not only posts incredibly helpful information, but to me he gives it credibility by walking the walk with his own dogs. We have a few Internet heroes that know exactly what Lardy quote to paraphrase, but they haven't actually implemented it to any success with their dogs. They may also be amusing, but they aren't good trainers.

I for one could use all the help and advice Glenn has to offer. He's in a very small group of people on RTF who have something worth listening to.

M

 

[Daniel J Simoens]

I always miss the good action when I go on vacations. always!

 

[Rozet]

Very well said Wayne, lets get back to traiining the dogs we love.