Does anyone have any vintage photos of field trials way back in the day(1900's),?That they would like to share,at the trial,champions and their handlers,nationals,etc.It would be cool to see how things have evolved from then to now.Thanks......
Vintage Retriever Field Trial Photos
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Does anyone have any vintage photos of field trials way back in the day(1900's),?That they would like to share,at the trial,champions and their handlers,nationals,etc.It would be cool to see how things have evolved from then to now.Thanks......
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I don't have any photo's ! I wasn't born then,or do I have the ability or reference ,But I am sure Google will help?
What I can say, Is ....The International Gundog League (IGL) held the first Retriever Championship in 1909 at Havant in Hampshire. It was won by the Duchess of Hamilton’s retriever, Dungavel Phoebe. (A bitch!)
The 1911 IGL Retriever Championship was won by Peter of Faskally, a Labrador who was the first retriever to be handled by whistle and hand signals in a field trial. Food for thought???
Not bad for a guy that done Sheep Dogs 'eh'?..who would think such a thing!
In the early 1900's ,the prominent dog in Field trials (uk) was the Flatcoat retriever. Since the 1911 Championships The Labrador Retriever has reigned !...and 'Dog's Not Bitches have been More successful ,since the 1960's !
What I can say, Is ....The International Gundog League (IGL) held the first Retriever Championship in 1909 at Havant in Hampshire. It was won by the Duchess of Hamilton’s retriever, Dungavel Phoebe. (A bitch!)
The 1911 IGL Retriever Championship was won by Peter of Faskally, a Labrador who was the first retriever to be handled by whistle and hand signals in a field trial. Food for thought???
Not bad for a guy that done Sheep Dogs 'eh'?..who would think such a thing!
In the early 1900's ,the prominent dog in Field trials (uk) was the Flatcoat retriever. Since the 1911 Championships The Labrador Retriever has reigned !...and 'Dog's Not Bitches have been More successful ,since the 1960's !
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The Seattle Times used to feature articles on trials. Maybe going through old newspaper archives might produce some fun pictures? I can only imagine that the Newspapers are off the old microfiche and digital now?
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Somehow I never thought of "back in the day" being 1995 but then it is all a matter of perspective.
in field trial terms the 1990s would be from about 1935 until 1999
sorry not making fun at your expense I just find the 1990s as back in the day amusing, it was only 14 years ago
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Ed, now I really feel old, but train with a younger fellow that asks me about the old days all the time, 1990's
I have some where a book put out by the National Club showing all the winners of the National Open from 1941 through 1960 with the judges, handlers, dogs along with qualifiers and finalists. If I can get my daughter to show me how to scan it, when I find it, or to whom has it will relay.
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Does anyone have any vintage photos of field trials way back in the day(1900's),?.....
Ed, don't be too hard on the lad he meant like at the beginning of the last century...not the end. Heck the idea that the 90's were "way back in the day" kind of creeps me out too.
Going out for some Cognex
Regards
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How many old photos you looking for? This is Mrs. Marshall Field with her yellow Lab Carl of Boghurst at the third meeting of the Labrador Retriever Club in 1933, held at the Meadow Farm estate of Charles Lawrance in East Islip L.I. Carl of Boghurst and Mrs. Field won the very first retriever field trial held in the USA in 1931. Held in the Hudson Valley Glenmere estate of Robert Goelet. Mrs. Field's husband Mr. Marshall Field III is the grandson of the founder of Marshall Field's Dept. store.
You are right,I was intrested in photos at the beginning of the1900's not the end.I was looking thru the latest Ducks Unlimited mag and saw "Panther" and a few old photos of a field trial,that's what got me stirred up in the old photos.I looked online for this,but have not found any or any books that have them.Mrs.Marshall Field is a good one.Dogs look the same but the attire has definately changed.
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If you go on Ebay, you can usually pick up a copy of the December 1938 LIFE magazine. It has the NFC for that year on the cover, Blind of Arden. There is an article in the magazine with pictures of the national championship. Very interesting.
If you google it, you may even be able to find those pictures online.
If you google it, you may even be able to find those pictures online.
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Here is another one you might like. This is a 1941 field trial at the R.R.M. Carpenter farm in Chesapeake City MD. Ruly Carpenter Jr, owned the only Chesapeake national champion in history when his Dilwyne Montauk Pilot won the Field & Stream trophy in 1936. Ruly Jr. and his grandfather and his son Ruly III also owned the Philadelphia Phillies from 1943 to 1981.
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Just googled and found the article from the 1938 LIFE magazine. Very interesting! http://www.feilbach.org/blind-of-arden.html
Lots of pictures. Some of the explainations they gave in the text were kind of funny.
There are numerous books of days past by folks active in the sport at one time or another. On occasion there are limited edition publications such as Fred Kampo's book that have great value to those of us who love the sport. I have quite a collection of various books from folks like Eloise, Gene Starkloff, DL, Charley Morgan, Shoemaker, etc that framed the sport as they saw it. Also have every FT News from the days it was the WI Am publication. The history is there, finding it is not easy. As you live in UPlace we are not very far apart, distance wise. If you'd like to talk dogs I do lunch on occasion
. Unfortunately, many who have something to pass on don't post here anymore on the subject.
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But Dr. Ed,
I am curious as to when the snappy attire worn at Field Trials went away, and why. I want to see you in tweed sport coat & tie, spats and knickers at the next trial.....
I am curious as to when the snappy attire worn at Field Trials went away, and why. I want to see you in tweed sport coat & tie, spats and knickers at the next trial.....
Here's something that I came across a while ago that may be of some interest
Outing Magazine August 1894
The Manitoba Field Trials Club has followed the example of the International and added an amateur stake to its events, which will commence September 5th. When the stake for dogs handled by amateurs was run at the International trials it provided, first: that such an event could interest many people: and second, : that the average gentleman sportsman is a bit of a duffer at handling dogs in such a contest. There were notable exceptions, however, and the excitable owners merely added to the fun.
Let the amateur stakes flourish, for they encourage genuine sport. If they also encourage amateurs to acquire something of the skill of professional handlers, minus certain doubtful methods, no great harm can result.
Outing Magazine August 1894
The Manitoba Field Trials Club has followed the example of the International and added an amateur stake to its events, which will commence September 5th. When the stake for dogs handled by amateurs was run at the International trials it provided, first: that such an event could interest many people: and second, : that the average gentleman sportsman is a bit of a duffer at handling dogs in such a contest. There were notable exceptions, however, and the excitable owners merely added to the fun.
Let the amateur stakes flourish, for they encourage genuine sport. If they also encourage amateurs to acquire something of the skill of professional handlers, minus certain doubtful methods, no great harm can result.
The life article was cool,I too like the knickers,hats and sport coat look.I don't see white coats.Marvin S.,I also eat lunch (on occassion )and would buy you lunch to talk dogs and local contacts in the trial world.Keep the pics coming,
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not Dr Ed...but the last guy that dressed that way on a regular basis was David Crow, a rather wealthy gentleman from Louisiana whose dog NFC AFC Happy Playboy's Pearl won the National in '74..always wore a sportcoat with a tie or turtleneck with a matching hat, reminded me of Tom Landry...was a really nice manBut Dr. Ed,
I am curious as to when the snappy attire worn at Field Trials went away, and why. I want to see you in tweed sport coat & tie, spats and knickers at the next trial.....
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Sure about that, bon? - my money would be on JJ Sweezey - who, turning the original poster's question into a semi-fin de siecle topic, is smack dab in the middle of this great word picture by Teddy Roosevelt III about field trialing in the middle of the last century.
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I did not know Mr Sweezey, only heard great stories about him from Lanse and WD Connor so I will take your word for it...
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