[Jennifer Henion]

I hope it's not scary /Paul, but it does seem scary at the moment, especially knowing you will be there watching;-)!

And Blake, I'm a little crazy and am trying to do both derbies and senior at the same time... we'll see how it goes.

 

[Wayne Nutt]

I remember doing akc walkups with Hudson. One time it was on the water double. The one that scared me the most was honoring on the land walkup. You had to walk with the honoring dog at heel about 3-4 steps behind the working dog and slightly off to the side. One of the birds was a flyer. I had never seen that before. I was saying softly "heel, no bird, heel, no bird......" But we got through it and passed.

 

[laurelwood]

I ran an AKC Senior test recently with a tandem walk-up for the honor too- honor dog walked right beside (about 8 ft apart) the working dog on one of the longest walk-up I've seen, 25-30 yards before they fired off the bird. Also have run tests with walk-up on water, walk-up was a flier and even a walk-out run after the double was picked up as you walked away from the line.

 

[Jennifer Henion]

I ran an AKC Senior test recently with a tandem walk-up for the honor too- honor dog walked right beside (about 8 ft apart) the working dog on one of the longest walk-up I've seen, 25-30 yards before they fired off the bird. Also have run tests with walk-up on water, walk-up was a flier and even a walk-out run after the double was picked up as you walked away from the line.

Holy cow...

 

[Kenneth Niles Bora]

Not required but very,very common.

I just now figured out your avatar is a person sitting against a round bale. All this time I thought it was the nose of an ant eater!!! And I would say "why does that guy have an ant eater for an avatar?"

 

[Howard N]

Good camo if it makes Bora think it's an anteater instead of a person in camo. :lol:

 

[copterdoc]

Good camo if it makes Bora think it's an anteater instead of a person in camo. :lol:

Actually, I thought it was an Anteater too. (Or maybe a long nosed Walrus.)

I know. Weird.

 

[PalouseDogs]

I thought it was a hippo head coming out of muddy water.

 

[mlp267]

My 1st SH Test was a couple w/ends ago and the walk-up was on water. All of the dogs did well on this.

 

[Byron Musick]

Expect a walk up anywhere, land, water, or both. I think my first walk ups I did not properly teach my dog to follow the gun (or heal properly), and she would fix on the gun station and not the direction of the hidden gun station mark. If you are too out of place you could miss the walk up mark (or at least we did once). Lots of practice with a very white visible gun station (go bird) with a hidden gun as the walk up, she learned that the visible gun station was not necessarily the first bird down. Anyway, everything goes better with practice.

 

[Mary Lynn Metras]

I ran an AKC Senior test recently with a tandem walk-up for the honor too- honor dog walked right beside (about 8 ft apart) the working dog on one of the longest walk-up I've seen, 25-30 yards before they fired off the bird. Also have run tests with walk-up on water, walk-up was a flier and even a walk-out run after the double was picked up as you walked away from the line.

Have done this in CKC WCX test. It is interesting!!!and you you can't say a word!

 

[Tim McGarry]

Section 6. Senior Hunting Test. Dogs shall be
tested in a minimum of four hunting situations that shall include one land blind, one water blind (that may be run as a double blind on land and water), one double land mark,
and one double water mark. There shall be at least one
diversion shot and at least one of the hunting situations should include a walk-up. In Senior tests, a double mark is
defined as two marks presented before the dog is sent to retrieve. Blinds shall not be run between marks in Senior
Hunting Tests.

As of Sep 1, 2013

Please see the following rule changes forwarded from the AKC Performance Events Department.



1. The first is concerning Senior Hunting Tests and Walk-Ups. The wording has changed to make it clear that a diversion shot will be included in a Senior Hunt Test AS WELL AS a WALK-UP. Before it has been interpreted that a walk-up could be optional at the Senior level. As of September 1, 2013, this is no longer an option. Please be aware of this change and expect to see this change at any test you are running. Please see the specific wording change indicated below

 

[Sundown49 aka Otey B]

As of Sep 1, 2013

Please see the following rule changes forwarded from the AKC Performance Events Department.



1. The first is concerning Senior Hunting Tests and Walk-Ups. The wording has changed to make it clear that a diversion shot will be included in a Senior Hunt Test AS WELL AS a WALK-UP. Before it has been interpreted that a walk-up could be optional at the Senior level. As of September 1, 2013, this is no longer an option. Please be aware of this change and expect to see this change at any test you are running. Please see the specific wording change indicated below

This is the CURRENT rules for Senior walk up......

 

[pzurka]

Senior Hunt Test Walk-Ups "with no attention getting devices"

My young dog and I were recently in our first senior hunting test and the scenario was (bird #1) a walk-up and then (bird #2) a shot flyer. My question is regarding the "with no attention getting devices utilized" verbiage in the rule book. The walk-up station was well hidden (as required) and was not visible to the judge's line of sight. When the handler/dog team approached the point where the bird should be thrown, one of the judges (from ~ 10 years behind the handler/dog) blew a duck call as a "signal" for the walk-up to be executed and unfortunately there was a slight lag in time between the duck call, the launch and then the shot as the duck was at the top of the arc. Unfortunately, most of the dogs that I observed prior to us running, turned to face the duck call (attention getting device ???) and missed the bird mark and wound up running a double blind. In most of the senior hunting tests I ran with previous dogs, the "shot" was fired simultaneously with the launch so the dog at least followed the sound of the shot, not a "diversionary" duck call.
From the rule book (Judge's Responsibilities) - (2) Signaling for birds to be thrown. Each set of Official Guns shall be signaled separately. This
prevents additional birds being shot if a fall is unsatisfactory to the Judges. The signaling Judge should be careful that neither his signaling nor the shadow of it might
be an unwanted distraction.
Can I get any comments or opinions on the "duck call" from behind the dog on a walk-up?

Thanks

 

[Tobias]

Not a judge and so my opinion is not coming from that perspective.... I don't think a duck call from behind in a senior or master level dog would be considered an unwarranted distraction. The judges have to be able to sugnal for the bird in some way and the use of a duck call is common in doing so.

 

[paul young]

I have no idea why someone walking up a bird in an actual hunt would be blowing a duck call. Doing it as a "diversion" in a hunt test is even more absurd.

I or my co-judge always signal to the thrower of the walk up bird with a raised book or radio. I much prefer the raised book, myself.

On a walk up, there should be no attention getter for that bird per the regulations. The bird is launched and a shot fired at the top of the arc.-Paul

 

[Dave Farrar]

I wouldn't want a duck call from behind. Every senior test I have run, the judges signaled with a book.

 

[mjh345]

Not a judge and so my opinion is not coming from that perspective.... I don't think a duck call from behind in a senior or master level dog would be considered an unwarranted distraction. The judges have to be able to sugnal for the bird in some way and the use of a duck call is common in doing so.

How in the world can you support what you wrote.?
Why not just have a bitch in heat run out 10 yards past the working dog and honor dog and bark at the walk up station to start the test!!??,

 

[Tobias]

How in the world can you support what you wrote.?
Why not just have a bitch in heat run out 10 yards past the working dog and honor dog and bark at the walk up station to start the test!!??,

I have never had an issue with duck calls coming from the side or behind me at a test. Must be a training/exposure thing. One quack on a duck call is not the same as a string of hail calls...if the dog cant turn to the throw at the sound of the shot.. or in the direction the handler is aiming the shotgun, then perhaps teamwork is lacking....

That said I suppose a radio could be used to call for a bird in the case of a well hidden gun station.

 

[djansma]

I ran run one last year and the judge yells there goes one (yes that is a distraction ) on the walk up,I would suppose they could justify it by saying the gunners were so concealed that was the only way they could signal the bird.But it is wrong!