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That's my input like I said if the pup was not what you wanted or showing substantial potential what could you of got out of him at the started or seasoned level and does your lean Mac pup have a fc afc ? Cause that's what would expect the least paying that for a pup lean Mac or not
 
I called on that litter! It was more than I thought but cant say I was surprised. I would buy 1 if given the opportunity! If some one is planning one please put me on the list!!
 
I can't see paying 6500 for a pup a fair price. But that's just me. Odds are he wouldn't be but what if he or she turned out to be a dud. Then the question then would be can you get that or better out of a started dog from him. Sorry but for me I wouldn't take the risk that's a vehicle. Let me say though I would love to have one sired from him giving his is only the best producing sire ever but dang 6500 is steep. There is still plenty of room to make money selling pups even if the straw is 8 to 10 k. Unless it was a 2 puppy litter but that's a chance every breeder takes. I've been there . That's just my opinion
This is pure ignorance, if you were able to afford this breeding you had better be ready to go to the goal which will be more than $200K
 
Any breeding can have a high percentage of dogs that can't do the work.

Few breedings have more than a few exceptional dogs in a litter if that.

To think that if a pup costs a lot of money it will be exceptional is crazy...
 
Any breeding can have a high percentage of dogs that can't do the work.

Few breedings have more than a few exceptional dogs in a litter if that.

To think that if a pup costs a lot of money it will be exceptional is crazy...
And anyone that thinks that it is a given that the dog will title is very naive (nicer term than ignorant), even if they have the money and the bitch was an FC/AFC.
 
There is a FC to FC breeding from Oregon right now in the classifieds for $3000. I'd buy two of those before I'd buy one Lean Mac pup for $6000, but that's just me. I think the odds would be better.
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Especially when the Lean Mac breeding is to FT washout.
 
Back to the subject at hand. The price for any pup is market based. Lean Mac is a very proven producer and is no longer living so the number of remaining straws is limited. If you really-really want a Lean Mac pup you're going to have to pay. Any good FT breeding is going to cost a lot compared to regular old back yard bred retrievers, and every one of them is a gamble.
 
I know they say to get the best breeding you can afford. But if you think about it, the cost of the pup is going to be the least of the expense.After you factor in the cost of the training just to see if the dog can play the game. Plus then you have the decision of which pro would be best to train a Lean Mac pup.
 
Or do a line breeding on two very good Lean Mac field champion pedigrees in stead of doing a LM breeding with a common bitch
 
If this breeding took place, do you think anybody on here would even have a chance at a pup? My experience is that for the most part, by the time you hear of a quality breeding it is too late, all pups are sold before they are born.
 
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