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"A really companionable and indispensable dog is an accident of nature.
You can't get it by breeding for it, and you can't buy it for money."

E.B.White, One man's meat, 1982
 
Don't know what hunt test titled labradors get for stud fees but my friend has a 7 year old Grand Champion golden with a JH and over 50 litters sired. My guess is his stud fee is $1800. He surpassed $40K in earnings a while ago. This is not unheard of at all. Does that make him worth $40K? Who knows. Who would buy him in this hypothetical market?
My own golden is quite literally one of a kind...no other Grand Champion (show) golden has ever earned a ribbon at a field trial. He has two : a Qual 3rd and JAM. What does that make him worth? Who would possibly buy him that could bring out more in him and capitalize more on him? Probably no one! Value truly is in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn't hazard a guess to his monetary value.
 
Don't know what hunt test titled labradors get for stud fees but my friend has a 7 year old Grand Champion golden with a JH and over 50 litters sired. My guess is his stud fee is $1800. He surpassed $40K in earnings a while ago. This is not unheard of at all. Does that make him worth $40K? Who knows. Who would buy him in this hypothetical market?
My own golden is quite literally one of a kind...no other Grand Champion (show) golden has ever earned a ribbon at a field trial. He has two : a Qual 3rd and JAM. What does that make him worth? Who would possibly buy him that could bring out more in him and capitalize more on him? Probably no one! Value truly is in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn't hazard a guess to his monetary value.
In an all age trial or specialty? Plenty of off breeds have GCH titles and get their qualified all age status at a specialty. Anyone who runs trials knows an all breed trial is very different than a title gained at a specialty. We need to be realistic about titles.
 
I'd be curious to know how many litters Stryder has sired? - only one breeding on retriever results or hunting lab pedigree, but I know a lot of pups don't get listed on these sites until they have accomplished a title or are being bred...

Rain finished up her derby career with 125 combined 'derby' points (canadian and US) - pretty phenomenal!
 
Tobias would they take 85 for Rain?
I know I wouldn't. She's a special dog (although being given as much opportunity as one could hope for doesn't hurt!) Could her littermates have been as successful? we may not know because maybe they were not afforded the same opportunity.. or maybe some were and did not pan out.... the ones listed on rr have the jh titles. Regardless, it takes a very intelligent and excellent marking dog to accomplish what she has.
 
In an all age trial or specialty? Plenty of off breeds have GCH titles and get their qualified all age status at a specialty. Anyone who runs trials knows an all breed trial is very different than a title gained at a specialty. We need to be realistic about titles.
Bally earned both of his ribbons at all breed, pro/am quals, with 35+ entries

There are no other GCH goldens with a field trial ribbon, period, from any stake any where
 
"A really companionable and indispensable dog is an accident of nature.
You can't get it by breeding for it, and you can't buy it for money."

E.B.White, One man's meat, 1982
This.. /\ /\…. I wonder how many of us ,have truly experienced one.. I haven't owned that many dogs.. 6 over 40 years or so... There is one that has been extra different as far as defining a companion,... truly a gift...
 
This.. /\ /\…. I wonder how many of us ,have truly experienced one.. I haven't owned that many dogs.. 6 over 40 years or so... There is one that has been extra different as far as defining a companion,... truly a gift...



Cant seem to post a quote within a quote ( just stupid I guess) but I dont get it Gooser. Maybe Im not understanding Ray's post but his description fits ALL my dogs all that I have kept anyway especially when it comes to being a companion. That's why I like labs I thought they came out of the box like that. I have had very few even considering the ones I didn't keep and sold that I didn't like.
 
I remeber one very cold day. It was late.. almost sundown. Hunting a large field of yellow grass.. we flushed a rooster.. I didnt hit it well, and the bird flew over a small rise,that made it impossible to to follow. The dog was in hot pursuit.. I walked to the top of the rise,,and could not see the dog! he blended perfectly into the late day sunset on the grass.. (Yeller dog). I stood there for a long time whistling for him...
It got dark,, panicking, I made my way back to the truck, thinking I was going to have to leave him..

I was a few yards from the truck, not knowing what my next move was going to be. I turned 1 last time to look over my shoulder, and the dog was 35 yards from me with the bird in his mouth..,,,

I haven't ever experienced that much feeling of relief, since in my life...

A lowly Junior Hunter, Ill trained by me, but spent countless hours of time in the field hunting rooster for 13 years... With me through those good times, and also with me though some very dark days... Always there... There is not enough money on the planet ...
 
Cant seem to post a quote within a quote ( just stupid I guess) but I dont get it Gooser. Maybe Im not understanding Ray's post but his description fits ALL my dogs all that I have kept anyway especially when it comes to being a companion. That's why I like labs I thought they came out of the box like that. I have had very few even considering the ones I didn't keep and sold that I didn't like.

That 1 dog of mine was very obviously different from all the others... All my dogs are special to me... but that 1 dog stood out... many many great memories, along with some very bad also... dog was always there.. He was obviously "My dog"
 
Had no money at the time... Only enough to gas the truck,,and a bit of food... Motels were out of the question, on those cold Nebraska/ Kansas hunting trips.. Many nights spent on the ground on a pad, under the truck, with that dog curled up next to me... Both of us happily worn out chasing Roosters during the day..

You cant buy that.. JMHO..


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