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I use a Nikon D80 and love it. I also considered the Canon 30D, but I found the Nikon's user controls to be more intuitive. I am amazed how much my pictures improved. Personally, after filling drawers with cameras that turned to junk, I wanted a camera that was more likely to outlast the technology curve at least. Both Canon and Nikon have excellent customer service (I have some point and shoots from both), unlike Panasonic. I recommend you buy an extended warranty ($80 from best buy) which will cover all perils except theft/losing it. I have heard that some folks are pretty unhappy with the Rebel, and I did not consider it for this reason.
 
could anyone post some pics from their cameras so that I might be able to choose from any difference in the pics.

Thanks everyone for you responses.

Jon
You will not be able to tell a difference from your computer. Your resolution is not good enough. Just get your hands on some cameras. I have a Nikon D80 and love it...
 
could anyone post some pics from their cameras so that I might be able to choose from any difference in the pics.

Thanks everyone for you responses.

Jon
Taken with the D40 and the kit lense:

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Okay, how are you guys posting your pictures? I have try every w/c way I know to post a larger picture but all I can do is to attach them as an Thumbnail. :confused:
 
Okay, how are you guys posting your pictures? I have try every w/c way I know to post a larger picture but all I can do is to attach them as an Thumbnail. :confused:
Upload them on photobucket, and then, copy and paste the image code.
 
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Thanks for the picks Charles they are beautiful. I can see that I have a dillema on my hands.
 
I expect one would be well served to look at the two top dSLR camera manufacturers, Canon and Nikon, for their equipment.

I don’t have many images on line. Many of these have been posted here before.

Images from my Canon 20D:

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How about the new Nikkon D60 compared to the D80?
 
I just ordered a new D60 today. The D60 can use older Nikon auto-focus lenses but will not accommodate the AF feature, because it does not have a drive motor. The D80 does have a drive motor and will be able to use the full features of all Nikon AF lenses. The D60 is more of a beginners camera while the D80 is more advanced from what I know. You can do a side by side comparison of them at www.dpreview.com. I hope this helps a little, I am not an expert by any means. I went with the D60 because it did what I need it to do plus more.
 
For action photos, the most important considerations in selecting a camera are:

Shutter lag: the time between when you press the button and when the camera actually takes the picture. For high end cameras this will be about .05 seconds. For lower end cameras it may be .5 seconds. The difference is huge. At .5 seconds the shot you get has nothing to do with the shot you tried to take in an action situation.

Shots per second: How many sequential shots can you take per second and how many before the camera has to slow down to write the images to the memory card? Higher end cameras will shoot 4-8 shots/second at maximum resolution and allow you to shoot 10-20 shots before slowing down. This improves your chances of getting lucky in capturing that magic moment.

Time to Focus/Accuracy of Focus: Higher end cameras have very precise and fast auto-focus capabilities and allow you to pick what part of the image in the viewfinder will be used to focus on. However, you only get the full benefit of this capability with a high end lens that is capable of being focused quickly. Without a quick auto-focus, you must effectively pick the spot where you will shoot your picture and wait for the dog to run through it while keeping the camera on manual focus. You can improve your odds of a good focus by taking shots from the side of the running dog so the distance remains relatively constant rather from directly in front where the distance is changing quickly.

Lens Quality: When you pick a camera body you are also picking the lens family that you will have to live with. For action photography, you need a good selection of high resolution, fast, auto-focus and image stabilized telephoto lenses. Only two manufacturers are competitive at this level: Canon and Nikon. Unfortunately, competitive is defined by quality, not cost. Both are extremely expensive with even their "better" (not best) telephotos in the 200-400 mm range costing over $1000 with image stabilization and fast auto-focus capability.

Having said all this, the reality is that great pictures can be taken with almost any camera -- it just requires a little more luck. Also, most of us are happy with good pictures and incapable of taking great pictures consistently anyway. Professional photographers use the best equipment because they must be able to take very good to great shots on a predictable basis. If someone asks you to take pictures of their dog in a trial,they won't be happy if you ask them to run the dog again since you missed the shot.

Almost all professionals using 35 mm style SLR cameras use either Canon or Nikon. Canon probably has a slight advantage for "still" shots (weddings, fashion, landscape). Nikon has an advantage among photo-journalists shooting action shots. You can see this simply by looking down the sidelines of a pro football or basketball game. As you look at those long lenses, however, remember that the starting price for a high quality 400 mm+ lens is $5000+ and they range to about $10,000. The camera bodies that go with them range from about $1500-$5000.

These images were all taken with a Nikon D2X camera using either the Nikon 70-200 mm f/2.8 AF-S VR lens or the Nikon 80-400 mm f/4.505.6 AF VR lens.

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My wife is a professional photographer, www.jfieldsphotography.com, and she is a Canon shooter. She shoots with a couple of 30D's and 5D's. Her favorite lenses are the 70-200 f2.8L Image Stabilization, and her favorite prime lense is the 50MM f1.4. Don't forget about good software. My wife uses photoshop CS3, and adobe Lightroom. Lightroom is a big time saver for her. She shoots in raw exclusively, instead of jpeg, this gives her more control over the final outcome of the photo. Raw files are almost twice as big, so a compact flash card with more memory is recommended, or just more cards. It's not unusual for her to come back after a photo shoot with over 500 photos, so she has lots of cards. Have fun with the new hobby, it really is a great way to make memories last forever. Her are some of her shots, the boys in the Sunflowers are my sons, and the b&w little, and the girl on the swing is my daughter. The others from some of her photo shoots.

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...Nikon has an advantage among photo-journalists shooting action shots. You can see this simply by looking down the sidelines of a pro football or basketball game...

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Really?????

Arent all those white lenses I see at pro sports events Canon lenses?

I like this image a lot.

Joe
 
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