[zipmarc]

How about some more trial results, pulleasssseeee???

 

[Roger Perry]

Obviously, there is a problem with signal strength with the cell phones.

 

[jbthor]

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[jbthor]

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[Marvin S]

I know, and i can tell you that this has become an incredible nightmare for me and my staff. The phone is ringing off the hook and i get a couple emails a day from folks stating "i can't believe EE would stoop to this level, me - or my club - will never use EE again."

After a personal phone conversaton from me to the club/pissed off handler.... they realize that this is not our responsibility and there is no way anyone on my team would have thought the ad to be malicious.

It is what it is, i've nonated the last two weeks of my life to making sure this is made correct, and doing damage control for my company.

I will only say this..... i've been privvey to some of the formal correspondence between various clubs and AKC on this matter and the clubs involved understand that EE is not rsponsible for these actionas, malilious or otherwise.

You can be assume that the person responsibe has lost all advertising privedlges through EE and that we have done everything within our power to make this right.

SM

Without going into detail - since when did you become responsible for some one else's idea of humor gone awry. Too many in this sport take themselves much to seriously, probably more serious than their fellow competitors.

TBS - most competitors are finding the ad VERY HUMOROUS to say the least, you might consider responding in that manner also.

As one of the other responders to this post theorized, maybe one too many Crowns before you got on the keyboard.

Shayne, I consider you a fairly bright guy - your response to this issue doesn't put you in that category.

 

[JWC]

We all know that most pro's are not going to call during a trial. In fact they are not likely to call anyone who's dog did not place during the weekend or the drive home. What most of us want is the information about our dog and we want it with or without the pro's help.

When we are running a trial we usually get the callbacks with an ear for our own dog and those of our friends. Rarely do we take the time to get all the call backs much less post them to the internet. If we would take the time to do that, post ourselves or call someone who will post, we could all help eliminate this information gap. When my friend Tom started asking for all the callbacks so he could post them, I just did not get it. Now while sitting at the computer and constantly checking the internet for a glimpse of my dog, I get it in spades.

We could all do a lot for one another by taking the time to post the callbacks and results. It certainly does not take a pro to do that.

 

[jbthor]

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[JKL]

Without going into detail - since when did you become responsible for some one else's idea of humor gone awry. Too many in this sport take themselves much to seriously, probably more serious than their fellow competitors.

TBS - most competitors are finding the ad VERY HUMOROUS to say the least, you might consider responding in that manner also.

As one of the other responders to this post theorized, maybe one too many Crowns before you got on the keyboard.

Shayne, I consider you a fairly bright guy - your response to this issue doesn't put you in that category.

had you been at the trials this ad appeared, you would know that this ad was NOT found to be humorous, rather rude and seriously uncalled for. it may be humorous to some but the majority who actually saw the catalogs firsthand were not impressed.

 

[scott spalding]

The ad was placed by a very ignorant and selfish man. There was no humor intended.
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[North Mountain]

Marvin,

Would you have found it humorous had the ad been directed at you and your dog?

I know my feelings would have been hurt pretty badly.

Do unto others.........

 

[JusticeDog]

Marvin,

Would you have found it humorous had the ad been directed at you and your dog?

I know my feelings would have been hurt pretty badly.

Do unto others.........

boy, now I'm wondering what I missed... I think I'm glad I did.

 

[K G]

boy, now I'm wondering what I missed... I think I'm glad I did.

Exactly why I posted "ignorance is bliss"..........

kg

 

[Marvin S]

had you been at the trials this ad appeared, you would know that this ad was NOT found to be humorous, rather rude and seriously uncalled for. it may be humorous to some but the majority who actually saw the catalogs firsthand were not impressed.

I did plan to be there but had more pressing last minute business including some grandchildren that wanted to see their grandpa on their summer holiday at the beach. A few hugs from your grandkids are a lot more pleasant than any FT I've attended. They are reaching the ages where their schedules are going to get fuller so it may be the last time we can get that many together in the summer. But I would have thought you would have at least sent me a catalog for the $30 scratch fee, especially since I scratched immediately after the draw because of a change in scheduling of a public hearing I had to attend. 1st time I've paid a fee for scratching that early, but I'm sure you charged it to every one else that scratched?

The ad was placed by a very ignorant and selfish man. There was no humor intended.

And you would know what?

Marvin,

Would you have found it humorous had the ad been directed at you and your dog?

I know my feelings would have been hurt pretty badly.

Do unto others.........

Laura - lest you forget, my introduction to these forums was on a thread where I was on the receiving end of many comments. Many unfounded, many untrue, many unbased & a few lies but somehow life goes on.

But the funniest thing is - you folks might want to rethink because this appears to be an issue where KG & I are in some sort of agreement.

 

[North Mountain]

Laura - lest you forget, my introduction to these forums was on a thread where I was on the receiving end of many comments. Many unfounded, many untrue, many unbased & a few lies but somehow life goes on.

None of those comments were made by me.

Even though life goes on, that does not mean demeaning our competitors in such a fashion is the right thing to do. You can find it funny if you wish. I thinks it's a shame.

Laura

 

[Angie B]

So what are the frick'n results for cry'n out loud????

I don't care whose pro calls when,,, what amateur/pro didn't work at the last trial or who put an obnoxious ad in Shaynes catalog????

Give me a Break!!!!

Angie

 

[North Mountain]

Another thread was started with the results. Scroll down.

 

[Jenn]

NDRC results were started on a new thread that pertained to the subject: Below is the link.

http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29633

 

[Marvin S]

Even though life goes on, that does not mean demeaning our competitors in such a fashion is the right thing to do. You can find it funny if you wish. I thinks it's a shame. Laura

I subscribed to the New Yorker for a few years - finally stopped because they became a 1 issue magazine. But they have some of the finest cartoons/cartoonists around. Among my prized possessions is a book of their best cartoons & 2 DVD's of past cartoons. If you knew me well, you would know I'm not a typical New Yorker subscriber, but I try to take humor where I find it, as there is precious little in this world.

But I guess when one is not carrying a full load on their shoulders they tend to react to events from their perspective only. Not saying you, just the comments coming from others posting.

 

[JKL]

I did plan to be there but had more pressing last minute business including some grandchildren that wanted to see their grandpa on their summer holiday at the beach. A few hugs from your grandkids are a lot more pleasant than any FT I've attended. They are reaching the ages where their schedules are going to get fuller so it may be the last time we can get that many together in the summer. But I would have thought you would have at least sent me a catalog for the $30 scratch fee, especially since I scratched immediately after the draw because of a change in scheduling of a public hearing I had to attend. 1st time I've paid a fee for scratching that early, but I'm sure you charged it to every one else that scratched?

Except for reasons involving medical or bitch in season, I dont care what your reason for scratching the trial, its none of my business.
As for taking a scratch fee from others, Nope. You are the only one who scratched for a reason other than ones warranting a full refund. The wording in the premium is quite clear regarding scratches and refund of entry fees.
Refund of entry does not include a catalog. If you want a catalog, call Shayne. He might find one in the trash can, nasty ad and all.

 

[JKL]

I subscribed to the New Yorker for a few years - finally stopped because they became a 1 issue magazine. But they have some of the finest cartoons/cartoonists around. Among my prized possessions is a book of their best cartoons & 2 DVD's of past cartoons. If you knew me well, you would know I'm not a typical New Yorker subscriber, but I try to take humor where I find it, as there is precious little in this world.

But I guess when one is not carrying a full load on their shoulders they tend to react to events from their perspective only. Not saying you, just the comments coming from others posting.

Of all the persons who have posted on this subject I am curious, who does not carry a full load?