[Arturo]

irregardless .......

That's a good one!;-)

 

[david gibson]

well, not having trained specifically for FT but training not to run banks, if my dog did not immediately return to the water the instant she picked up the bird i would stop her and give her a 45degree come in handle, knowing her that would likely do the trick. not sure if in FT the dog is automatically expected to return by water, even with such a thin sliver of water there, but i would imagine so. that is as tempting of a bank run as you can get and still come close to calling it fair.

i do a lot of training with angles across big drainage ditches (heck, thats the only topography we have here), so the land blind to me really looks like a gimme, not to sound over confident. decent chance to step on it, but very likely to take 1 or 2 whistles. the water blind is tough. i am pretty certain the dog would veer off that perfect line a bit by the time she got up on the dam, so i would imagine i would have to handle her to the entry point then give a cast back (probably a 45 deg cast right to account for shoreline suck), with another 2 or 3 whistles to keep her on track. in short, Rigby (back right of my avatar) would very likely get it, but it would take 7 or 8 whistles. i'd think the judges would be happy to see me leave the line after that.....

 

[zipmarc]

because of your perceived stupidity on my part, i get it! i guess now i need to run idiot check as well as dumba$$ check and spell check on all my posts...

Relax. You are not being attacked.

 

[JKL]

well, not having trained specifically for FT but training not to run banks, if my dog did not immediately return to the water the instant she picked up the bird i would stop her and give her a 45degree come in handle, knowing her that would likely do the trick. not sure if in FT the dog is automatically expected to return by water, even with such a thin sliver of water there, but i would imagine so. that is as tempting of a bank run as you can get and still come close to calling it fair.

....

Time is a major priority. After the dog has retrieved the blind, the judges will usually have a quicker return route, almost always by land.
In FT the route to the bird is much more important than the return.

FT blinds are not judged the same as HT blinds for the simple reason that FT dogs are judged against each other, it is relative to the field, and HT dogs are up against a standard.

 

[DeWitt Boice]

SURFGEOD300

what you are doing is called "hijacking" this Thread
In other words, you are not sticking to the subject
which is, what is going on at the national
not how you would run it

you can read the rules at AKC.org
you can research questions here on RTN using the search tool
or you could start a new thread

we enjoyed your account of what you watched yesterday
thanks

I am not a moderator, but I must sound like one
sorry

D

 

[2tall]

How can he hi jack his own thread?

 

[david gibson]

SURFGEOD300

what you are doing is called "hijacking" this Thread
In other words, you are not sticking to the subject
which is, what is going on at the national
not how you would run it

you can read the rules at AKC.org
you can research questions here on RTN using the search tool
or you could start a new thread

we enjoyed your account of what you watched yesterday
thanks

I am not a moderator, but I must sound like one
sorry

D

well, my feelings are deeply hurt, you used all caps in my name and that is just plain mean to yell at me like that.

sorry for hijacking my own thread. funny - others were happy to discuss the rules as they pertained to the exact series being run at this moment. not exactly what i would call hijacking off the original topic - oh, and if you read a little you will see that i was ASKED how i would run it.

wow, what a meanie. i'll go now and let you keep playing moderator if thats what gets you off.

good day

 

[JKL]

How can he hi jack his own thread?

Good question, I looked back and it all started with him asking questions about the Natl! Whats changed?

 

[FOM]

David,

D isn't really a meanie he is just cranky The weather here is turning for the worse and I'm sure he is itching to go skiing.

Just poke him with a cattle prod and he'll be quiet! :lol:

FOM

 

[K G]

This is what happens when we try to confine ALL questions/inquiries/comments about this National Retriever Championship to ONE THREAD.......................

And it's only Monday regards, ;-)

kg

 

[jeff t.]

How can he hi jack his own thread?

I believe this thread is an amalgam of several threads that were lumped together last night by Vicky...in attempt to keep all of the National discussion in one place..so there may be more than one originator.

 

[david gibson]

wow, here i am with just 16 posts and i have already become a controversial member!

isn't there an award or something like that for me?

i am destined for greatness here, i'll tell ya!

 

[JKL]

wow, here i am with just 16 posts and i have already become a controversial member!

isn't there an award or something like that for me?

i am destined for greatness here, i'll tell ya!

Trust me buddy, you have accomplished nothing. The record cant be beat on controversial posting!

 

[Lynn Moore]

It would be great if we could just keep it to what is actually going on at the National instead of all this back and forth personal stuff. My dog is there and we are not, so it would helpful and interesting to hear what is happening, like the dogs' work, gallery observations, etc. instead of peoples interpretation of the rules and definitions. Let the three judges judge.
Thanks,
Lynn

 

[Arturo]

wow, here i am with just 16 posts and i have already become a controversial member!

isn't there an award or something like that for me?

i am destined for greatness here, i'll tell ya!

You need to spend a little time over at the POTUS forum if you want controversy!

 

[JKL]

But that is what this particular thread started as. There is another thread started by Shayne, why has nobody used it for strictly 2008 National updates?

 

[FOM]

But that is what this particular thread started as. There is another thread started by Shayne, why has nobody used it for strictly 2008 National updates?

I haven't heard any updates.....as soon as I hear them I update the list on the other thread.....anyone got any news? Any known pick ups?

FOM

 

[EdA]

list mist @ 4:20 dog 75 running, likely will have 12-15 dogs in the morning, then a triple with water involved

from the gallery it appears that most dogs have handled the double blind without a great deal of difficulty, over analysis on the internet notwithstanding.......;-)

 

[Vicky Trainor]

I believe this thread is an amalgam of several threads that were lumped together last night by Vicky...in attempt to keep all of the National discussion in one place..so there may be more than one originator.

After consideration, Chris posted the following:

Guys and Gals,

RTF is here for YOUR use. Please do not let us dictate what threads you post National Open information under.

If you have new subject matter that is worthy of a new thread, post it up please!

We realize that the National Open gets tons of views and traffic. As such, some will not want to wade through pages upon pages of updated stuff on only one or two threads.

Thanks! Chris

Suggestion: If one of you starts reporting on a new series' results, please feel free to label it as such and notify myself or Vicky. That way we can sticky it.

We don't plan on combining future threads.

 

[JKL]

I haven't heard any updates.....as soon as I hear them I update the list on the other thread.....anyone got any news? Any known pick ups?

FOM

I am posting updates on the thread started by Shayne.