[Furball]

I would mind my own business, and move on. As Paul has so often told me, "you can't fix stupid.

Bing bing bing -- we have a winner

 

[agile.labs]

I would mind my own buisiness, and move on. As Paul has so often told me, "you can't fix stupid.

Bing bing bing -- we have a winner

But it becomes someone else's business when that dog is worked around others. Now that person's "business" has affected others abilitites to continue training saffely.

 

[jcasey]

But it becomes someone else's business when that dog is worked around others. Now that person's "business" has affected others abilitites to continue training saffely.

I thought these were private lessons.

Either way, unless the trainee has a change of attitude, the lessons are a waste of time.

 

[Leddyman]

I would remind the trainer that that person is going to go around with a butthead dog telling people that XX trained it. It could hurt the reputation of the trainer and cause a loss of future business. Especially if the dog hurts another dog and the owner tries to put it off on the person who trained him. People who are too stupid to understand the reasons behind sound training are likely to do just that.

A reputation is worth more than the private lesson fee regards,

 

[Furball]

But it becomes someone else's business when that dog is worked around others. Now that person's "business" has affected others abilitites to continue training saffely.

I agree. But this is between the owner(s) of the dog, the instructor, the owner of the facility she brings the dog to, and the other handlers the dog comes in contact with. If you aren't one of those parties then I would stay out of it.

 

[agile.labs]

I thought these were private lessons.

Either way, unless the trainee has a change of attitude, the lessons are a waste of time.

She was originally in an agility class when this lunging happened. In the original post it states that and it says she has been removed from the class setting

I agree. But this is between the owner(s) of the dog, the instructor, the owner of the facility she brings the dog to, and the other handlers the dog comes in contact with. If you aren't one of those parties then I would stay out of it.

I never said I wasn't one of those parties.

Just like poor poodlegirls pup getting bit, something like this quickly became her business as well.

 

[Pete]

Is the trainer that does private lesson at the agility place or is that trainer seperate from agility

Pete

 

[badbullgator]

If it is a private lesson and you are not the one teaching it why do you care what she does? Her money and as long as the instructor want to take it for the "lessons" that is between the instructor and the person paying. You are not the training police. Mind your own business is the best net

 

[Kenneth Niles Bora]

A person came to agility classes with a herding breed..............
................What would YOU do with a person like this??

I would wonder why I, and my hunting retriever ended up in a herding agility class?;-)
Then I would ask the location of the nearest swamp that I could run marked retrieves through heavy cover in.

 

[agile.labs]

If it is a private lesson and you are not the one teaching it why do you care what she does?

Why do I care??? Because she wants to do agility classes where my dogs are and the time I saw her dog I had to sweep in and save a small dog from being eaten. THAT is why I care.

 

[Howard N]

Why do I care??? Because she wants to do agility classes where my dogs are and the time I saw her dog I had to sweep in and save a small dog from being eaten. THAT is why I care.

I thought you said she and the dog had been kicked out. There isn't anything you can do if the lady wants to continue to train and someone else gives her private lessons. Matter of fact, good for her for trying. You can hope something soaks in.

If she tries to come back to class then you might have some input.

 

[Pete]

Here is an idea
Have the agility instructor teach the owner how to prevent that.
for all intensive purposes it only takes a few minutes

Pete

 

[badbullgator]

I thought you said she and the dog had been kicked out. There isn't anything you can do if the lady wants to continue to train and someone else gives her private lessons. Matter of fact, good for her for trying. You can hope something soaks in.

If she tries to come back to class then you might have some input.

I agree with Howard
As mentioned she got kicked out of YOUR class and now is in her PRIVATE class, and trying to work on her "problems". Why is that your problem?
Are you an instructor there? Why did you have to swoop in and rescue a small dog?

 

[greg magee]

But it becomes someone else's business when that dog is worked around others. Now that person's "business" has affected others abilitites to continue training saffely.

You asked how I would handle the situation. And I explained how I would handle it. If I followed my own advice and the dog showed aggression towards my dog then the agressing dog would have a size 13 boot imprint on top of his head. Works wonders, and a lot of people pat you on the back. You can't ask a question like that and then debate the answers, who do you think you are John Fallon :razz:

 

[badbullgator]

That is what I would do to but I would really have to write and rewrite what to say because there are so many things but they just wouldn't be nice.

Like: What you are doing is obviously not working. Do you want my help or not??

And I think you are right, unless the owner changes, the dog isn't going to either.

Again what business is it of yours? The dog in not in your class. If it were me and I was in a private class and you came up to me and told me I don;t know what I am doing and that YOU think I should leave I would plant a large shoe in you sitter. If the dog should come back into YOUR class than you can speak to the instructor/owner of the facility, but YOU have no business telling someone what they can and cannot do when it has no effect on you. You sound like one of those busybody old women who has nothing better to do than save the world from itself. NOT YOUR ISSUE (unless I missed something and you are the facility owner or teach the class or have some offical power with the classes. This might be the case that you have some power there, I don't bother to read much past "in my agility class......"

 

[Pete]

If I followed my own advice and the dog showed aggression towards my dog then the agressing dog would have a size 13 boot imprint on top of his head. :razz:

Greg
Stop flattering yourself.

Pete

 

[greg magee]

Greg
Stop flattering yourself.

Pete

Pete, not sure how you see that as flattering myself. It's just a tactic that has worked well for me. What would you do if an agressive dog came at one of your dogs, say please stop?

 

[agile.labs]

I admittedly haven't read past page 3 but just a reminder to the original question

This is not a what should she do but a what would you do. Her current trainer is handling herself just fine, just wnating to see what others would do in a similar situation.

This is not a what should *I* do, what should *trainer* do, what should *owner* do.

This was simply a training scenario to see how others would handle a similar situation. There is a lot to be learned from others and how they hadle different scenarios.

For all I know this issue has been resolved.

 

[Bruce MacPherson]

I admittedly haven't read past page 3 but just a reminder to the original question



This is not a what should *I* do, what should *trainer* do, what should *owner* do.

This was simply a training scenario to see how others would handle a similar situation. There is a lot to be learned from others and how they hadle different scenarios.

For all I know this issue has been resolved.

Are you bored? You seem to ask questions which apparently have no correct answers or really don't apply to much of anything.

 

[Leddyman]

Pete, not sure how you see that as flattering myself. It's just a tactic that has worked well for me. What would you do if an agressive dog came at one of your dogs, say please stop?

Ahem...I believe he was referring to shoe size and the mythological correlation between feets and
pee pees. Hence the . Size 13 indeed?

Smiling Bob regards,