[BonMallari]

Guess there goes my Wolf tag this year


http://www.kidk.com/news/local/100071364.html


BOISE - A federal judge made an immediate ruling to re-enlist gray wolves to the endangered species list in Montana and Idaho, which means there won't be a hunt this season.

It's already getting camps on both sides fired up.

"I don't think unlimited growth in the population is a good thing," says Ken Pursley of Boise.

"I think it was wrong that we de-listed them and I think they should be reintroduced and have the balance maintained," says Jerri St. Clair, advocating for wolves.

Wolf advocates have fought ranchers and even politicians for years trying to maintain and even increase the wolf population.

Last year they lost the fight. Wolves were de-listed and the hunt was on, but only in Montana and Idaho. They were still listed as endangered in Wyoming.

Now a federal judge is saying last years ruling was a political solution, either they're endangered or they're not. All states must comply under the same rules.

"What we want is a good delisting program for the wolves, but it also works for the regional stake holders and I think we can get there if we stop arguing and fighting," says Suzanne Stone, Defenders of Wildlife wolf advocate.

Politicians and Idaho Fish and Game have already made statements of their disappointment in the ruling saying they've complied with the regulations of the hunt this season and now it's being taken away.

A big win for advocates, but ranchers say it's a devastating hit.

Both Idaho and Montana held wolf hunts last year. Montana's kill ended with 73 wolves and Idaho's with 185.

At the end of 2009, there were at least 843 wolves in Idaho, 524 in Montana and 320 in Wyoming, with more in parts of Oregon and Washington state.

 

[dnf777]

I was going to re-post an article in our local paper that discussed the recent sad fatal attack on the jogger in Nova Scotia, that got some attention here as well. It focused on the hybridization of wolves with coyotes in the east. Makes for a dog with the boldness of a coyote, with the size and abilities of a wolf. Not a big problem yet, but if left unchecked, that cannot be good.

 

[traklover]

That wasn't the only attack last year. In the fall, a walker in another area of Nova Scotia was attacked. No damage done though. Very strange incident. The coyote crossed a pond, to get to this woman, a nipped her on the leg, then ran off.

 

[BHB]

From what I heard Wyoming wanted to "manage" the wolf population by shooting every wolf on sight. They didn't want the federal govt telling them how to manage them. The feds wouldn't let them enact such a plan so they didn't let the wolf be delisted in Wyoming.

Now, a judge says that since Wyoming the wolf is not delisted then all the states can't be delisted. The feds and the ESA has gotten WAY out of control!!! Let the states manage how they see fit for their particular state!

The wolves in Idaho do a lot of damage to the deer and elk herds directly and indirectly. Directly by killing the elk themselves. Indirectly by not allowing hunters to control other species of predators such as black bear.

In some areas black bear kill close to 80% of the calf elk every spring. They come out of hibernation and find a lone cow elk(a lone one means that they are calving and usually have a calf nearby). They run the cow off and go back through the field like a bird dog to find the calf. They have very good noses.

To control the bear population hounds are used and are the most efficient means. In those areas there are wolves, also. The wolves will tear up any other canine in their territory. The hound hunters won't run their dogs in those areas because they lose too many hounds(some of these hounds can be worth $10k), thus the bears continue to decimate the elk.

They didn't need the wolves but they were crammed down their throats anyway. Just more government dictating how we should live!

Sorry for the rant!
BHB

 

[Happy Gilmore]

One of my best buddies families settled the town of Weiser, ID. His gramps runs a ranch off the grid north of Weiser. Takes a couple hours to get there due to bad roads. According to him he has never seen, never heard, never smelled and never come across a wolf in the wild. He's told biologists and F&W service alike its rumor and they all live in Montana.

SSS is the rule for all ranchers

 

[1st retriever]

That is a bad move. Should have a season on them as far as I am concerned!

 

[Juli H]

Guess there goes my Wolf tag this year



Last year they lost the fight. Wolves were de-listed and the hunt was on, but only in Montana and Idaho. They were still listed as endangered in Wyoming.

Now a federal judge is saying last years ruling was a political solution, either they're endangered or they're not. All states must comply under the same rules.

so why are they not illegal to hunt and trap in Alaska??
and why would several other species not be 'protected' nationwide? (river otter, lynx, and others I am sure

I think the judge needs a swift kick OUT the door.

Juli

 

[tshuntin]

Earlier this week in N Utah a wolf was proven to have killed a great pyrenese and severely injuring a second one that were protecting a herd of sheep. Oh but wait, officials keep saying there are no wolves in Utah.....

 

[Steve Shaver]

Earlier this week in N Utah a wolf was proven to have killed a great pyrenese and severely injuring a second one that were protecting a herd of sheep. Oh but wait, officials keep saying there are no wolves in Utah.....

Wow T, where was that?

 

[tshuntin]

Above Coalville in chalk creek.

 

[Joseph Kendrick]

That quote of "there are no wolves in Utah," made me think of an incident in Camden Arkansas in 1993. Mr Tolley who had a herford farm just outside of Camden called the Arkansas Game and Fish Comm and told them that he had a Black Cougar (also known as a Panther in these parts) killing calves on his property. They told Mr Tolley that there were no Cougar or Panthers in Arkansas especially South Arkansas. The AGFC sent out a biologist (Don Turman) who looked at some of the remains and said there there is no way that the damage to the calf was done by a Cougar it had been done by Coyotes or dogs. After the biologist left the farm and was driving down the dirt road back to the highway he hit a very large black cat that ran out of in front of his truck. He ran off the road and hit a tree in all of the excitement. Mr Tolley heard the comotion and drove down to check what was going on down the road. When he pulled up the Biologist was checking out the Panther that he had hit with his truck. He looked up at Mr Tolley and said "There's one less Cougar in Arkansas now."

 

[Illinois Bob]

The Wisconsin DNR has a link that you can have an e-mail sent when there is another wolf attack.I'm amazed at how often I've been getting these alerts lately.There have been 12 dogs killed or injured in the last month,21 for the year so far.31 last year.It's looks like mostly guys running thier bear hounds but there are a few labs and other breeds listed too.

https://service.govdelivery.com/service/subscribe.html?code=WIDNR_407