[K G]

K G

That is not what I was getting at. I have ran SRS, FT, HRC, AKC and have been very lucky at all of them. I was wondering what you wanted me to look up about the SRS?

JM

All of the discussion that has occurred HERE ON RTF about this venue...that's all. The discussion about SRS has, quite literally, been going on for YEARS. There's really not much more that can be said about it that hasn't already been said...that's all.

Too bad the best SRS thread of all time is lost in cyberspace.

Boy ain't THAT the truth... ;-)

The SRS site shows $5,000 pay out, what's the pay out in FT ? Looks to me the best dogs would be where the money"s at ;-)

See post #24....is that why so few dogs can enter/be finalists?

k g

 

[Nate_C]

I have always loved the concept of the SRS and they do have some very challenging tests. However, it is too bad that those that operate it have done so in a questionable manor. If a SRS title means nothing it is not becasue of the dogs work but because of a lack of respect for the organization that runs it.

P.S. I think the Bankrupt thing is possible. I think they only have three club events this year and one classic. With the loss of some key sponsors they might not have enough money to televise the crown or have any big payouts. No crown would kill the SRS.

 

[david gibson]

The SRS site shows $5,000 pay out, what's the pay out in FT ? Looks to me the best dogs would be where the money"s at ;-)

if there were enough opportunities, sure. but 4 events a year that you have to drive 10 to 30 hours for doesnt get the masses very excited.... ;-)

 

[WALDMAN79]

Show Me The Money! As Long As There's Money Involved, The Srs Will Go On. When The Money's Gone Then Somebody Will Pop Up And Replace Them. Make The Money If You Can! And Dogs On Tv Is Great

 

[Chris Rosier]

waldman, is your caps lock button broke or what?

 

[Tommy Wallace]

What if once a year they did hold a Retriever World Series. If you got the people that entered to pay a fee like that of the World Series of Poker. That money it self would be a nice prize.

You would have to have a good turn out. If entry was between 500.00 & 1000.00 Could you imagine the pay out.

Any thought?

 

[BrettG]

I think to compare the titles is foolish. Fc Afc and NFC trial titles show the talent level in that game. Also, the mh and grhrch show their accomplishments in that game. The srsc or srsa shows the accomplishment in that game. The best titled dog would have titles from all showing it could win at field trials, was successful at ht and could play the srs game. That would be an awesome dog. The crown champion from last season is an Afc .

 

[BrettG]

Just remember not everyone can own a Fc or Afc. But with hard work and dedication most handlers can have an hrch or mh.

 

[Ken Guthrie]

What if once a year they did hold a Retriever World Series. If you got the people that entered to pay a fee like that of the World Series of Poker. That money it self would be a nice prize.

You would have to have a good turn out. If entry was between 500.00 & 1000.00 Could you imagine the pay out.

Any thought?

Yeah...money changes everything.

Remember that regards,

 

[BrettG]

Ken,
I know money isn't paid out for trial wins but there are definite financial gains from winning in that venue. Think about some of the puppy prices, stud fees, even the prices of dogs that are sold. Money isn't always the bad thing in the equation, people usually are the ones that mess it up.

 

[achiro]

I think they only have three club events this year and one classic.

Is this right?!?!?!?!

 

[achiro]

Yeah...money changes everything.

Remember that regards,

It wasn't money that screwed you, they just didn't like you. There was no way you were winning that thing.

 

[Aaron Homburg]

It wasn't money that screwed you, they just didn't like you. There was no way you were winning that thing.

Strike up the band! Where is that darn pop corn emote!!!! Really comparing these venues are like comparing apples and oranges. I have run dogs in all venues, enjoyed them all and they all have their place. It does take a unique dog that can be very successful in all venues though, as well as a very good handler.

Apples and Oranges Regards,

Aaron

 

[Ken Guthrie]

there are definite financial gains from winning in that venue. Think about some of the puppy prices, stud fees, even the prices of dogs that are sold.

I think most people drastically overestimate the ability to gain anything finacially in the FT game.

 

[Ken Guthrie]

It wasn't money that screwed you, they just didn't like you.

Dammit. I'm never gonna win anything then.

There was no way you were winning that thing.

When I pulled out of the parking the morning prior I knew that.

But, I'm a man of my word.;-)

 

[John Robinson]

Gentlemen and Ladies,

The Super Retriever Series is a hybrid event. It is not comparable to a Field Trial a Hunt Test or a Bird Dog Challenge. It is not similar to AKC or UKC. It is an event like no other. It is testing a total retriever/handler/trainer. It is not just testing field trial dogs or hunt test dogs but a total dog. Can you take a fire breathing field trial dog and throw him into a swamp swinging a shotgun over his head and shooting close birds? You sure can! Will that dog perform well? Well he might or he might not or it might be just to much for him to handle. On the flip side you could take a hunt test dog and throw him into a very complex field trial setup with long thought out marks. Will he perform? Well he might or he might not. The SRS is looking for an animal that can handle ducks in your face shooting a gun hooting and hollering and everything associated with a hunt.....layout blinds, pits, boats, decoys and EXCITEMENT! They are also looking for the dog that has the advance training that will go out and pickup that long retired gun and has the advance training to do handle that kind of marks. We as a retriever community I would think would want to support and promote any dog related venue. Its good for the sport, the breeds and communities all of our venues will compete in.

As a very new person in the dog world I get so sick and tired (frustrated) of everyone bashing AKC, UKC, NARHA, BDC, SRS, super dock or even the show ring. Just play the game and promote all venues. All these games and competitions will make us better dog trainers and handlers.

Thank you,
Jon-Michael Rull

My buddy Armand Fangsrud entered his fire breather Ninja a few years ago and did quite well. I was surprised because, and I think Armand would be the first to admit this, Ninja is not known for his calm line manners, but boy can that dog mark! Anway, like others have said, it's a different venue and can be a lot of fun.

I also didn't get the idea that the original poster was trying to compare SRS to FC-AFC titles other than trying to get an idea of where an SRS champion might be in the whole spectrum of retriever game-titles. For the record FC-AFC, CFC-CAFC Ninja did well but didn't win the SRS championship, does that mean the dog that won was better than Ninja, not in my book, but in the SRS venue he was better by definition.

John

 

[golden boy 2]

I guess you didn't see him run at grand island..............

 

[John Robinson]

I guess you didn't see him run at grand island..............

I was just taking Armand's word for it, might have been a mistake.

John

 

[Buzz]

The SRS site shows $5,000 pay out, what's the pay out in FT ? Looks to me the best dogs would be where the money"s at ;-)

Huh?

 

[golden boy 2]

All I am saying is that a dog with all the titles in the world in front of its name or behind it can show up at any given venue on any given weekend and get its a$$ handed to them. So titles don't guarantee you anything.