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Dictionaries aside, Mourning Doves ARE legal game birds in some states, and as migratory birds are under the jurisdiction of the USWFS. The only place I am aware of that classifies pigeons, AKA roof rats is NJ ,where they are listed as song birds, and as such were verboten there when we used to run ACC WD tests in that state.
Roof Rats ???
You must be referring to the Columba livia domestica:rolleyes:, which is just one of the numerous types of pigeons .

You decided to climb on Bob, I hope your ready for the ride!
john
 
And in some states pigeons are legal year-round.

As for hen pheasants, I've seen dogs mark them well in even medium cover & be unable to find them. We had hen pheasants at Metro this fall and lost about half the field on a 120 yd flyer in thick but medium height (about 12") bermuda in a flat field. Set-up was a double with other bird approx 220 yd retired with more than adequate separation.
 
Don't like wikipedia. , try Websters on line.

2....plural squab : a fledgling bird; specifically : a fledgling pigeon about four weeks old.

It can also be used to describe a short fat guy:cool:

john
 
As for hen pheasants, I've seen dogs mark them well in even medium cover & be unable to find them. We had hen pheasants at Metro this fall and lost about half the field on a 120 yd flyer in thick but medium height (about 12") bermuda in a flat field. Set-up was a double with other bird approx 220 yd retired with more than adequate separation.
I don't think pheasants put off near as much scent as some other gamebirds, such as ducks.
 
Don't like wikipedia. , try Websters on line.

2....plural squab : a fledgling bird; specifically : a fledgling pigeon about four weeks old.

It can also be used to describe a short fat guy:cool:

john
squab
adjective1. short and fat
noun1. flesh of a pigeon suitable for roasting or braising; flesh of a dove, may be broiled
2. a soft padded sofa
3. an unfledged pigeon
WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
if you do not find the definition you want, look more:cool:
 
not illegal to shoot hen pheasants everywhere, was at least at one time legal to shoot hens in certain parts of western pennsylvania. Seeing they are both historically non-native and still being stocked annually from state pheasant farms, never heart my feelings to take a few...
 
Jerry, pigeons aren't 'legal game birds' either, but they were legal in hunt tests until a few years ago and in minor stakes at field trials until last year. I'd much rather use hen pheasants.
Here in CA, we shoot pigeons, the season I believe is year round and there is no limit on them.

When You tell a dairy farmer that each one of those sky rats cost him .07 a day, gives you the nod on shooting them. Fun times.
 
All I'm saying is that if clubs went back to pheasants on land you would see a lot shorter marks. Like I said. This topic will always stir the pot. But I would always feel better driving home if my dog missed a fifty yard pheasant as opposed to a 500 yard mark. Just my opinion. GREG
 
I like to see them as a retired check down bird right after an exciting drake flier;-)

I now have them barred at our Derbies.

john
 
John -

When you have them barred at your Derbies...do they give off more or less scent? :)

Just Wondering Regards,

Joe S.
I placed the bar far enough away that their lack of scent is no longer an issue.

Using ducks is a two pronged solution since, in the absence of absolutly perfect conditions, certain local guns can't seem hit hen pheasants good enough to kill them anyhow.

Hard to get to easy to find regards

john
 
I placed the bar far enough away that their lack of scent is no longer an issue.

Using ducks is a two pronged solution since, in the absence of absolutly perfect conditions, certain local guns can't seem hit hen pheasants good enough to kill them anyhow.

Hard to get to easy to find regards

john
Hey John, I've seen you shoot, so I understand your reluctance as well as your self assessment. You didn't think we sent Scotty out there with you by accident did ya?
 
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