Anyone heard of Horizon Labradors in Canon GA? They are not truly a gundog breeder, just a "regular" lab breeder, but we decided to put a deposit on a litter a little while back, and so far (pups are 8 weeks now) only one other person is getting a pup from them... They do have multiple litters a year, have a website, OFA results and genetic testing on all their dogs, etc. It's a little concerning though when the pups aren't selling. Many many other places we've looked at the pups often sell before their born.
Anyone heard of Horizon Labradors in GA?
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What better advertising can you get than your kennel name attached to a great dog you bred and nurtured as a young puppy? Makes sense to me!
There's not much profit in breeding if it's done responsibly. Oftentimes the biggest reward is getting your puppies in the right hands so they can go on to achieve their potential. If having your kennel name included in a dog's registered name helps to achieve that goal, so much the better.
I don't understand the resistance to including a kennel's name in your dog's registered name? A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet!
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I do 100% agree with you on the point about the health guarantee, that should be in place regardless of the name chosen. There should be no contingencies upon the health guarantee, you're either selling a pup you believe you've done all of your due diligence with or not...no "only this food or special diet can be fed" or "you must use this supplement" etc. All that should be asked of the buyer is to feed a life stage appropriate diet to the dog and provide appropriate care and vetting, as most already would anyway.
I don't think anyone is denying that the breeder wants their kennel name out there for the world to see? If you created something fantastic, you'd want people to know you did it right? Picasso signed his paintings, not the people who bought them from him. Many breeders have been breeding for decades, this is their life passion project, their contribution to the breed they love and they have devoted a lot of time and resources to it. I think it's just logical that they'd want their stamp on it? As J Marti mentioned, that can add value in some ways too sometimes. If you (general you, not specifically directed at Reginald) want your name on something, become an ethical breeder and create your legacy and contribution to your breed of choice. Most breeds can use more ethical breeders. If you're worried that people will go to your dogs breeder instead of you for a puppy, I don't think that should be much of a concern. If they see your dog and love it, they'll ask you if you're breeding him/her. If you are, they'll probably sign right up for the next litter, if you aren't breeding then yes, they will probably look into the dog's breeder and you've lost nothing anyway.
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FYI there is a difference between a “registered” kennel name with AKC and using an unregistered kennel name. A registered kennel name costs money ($500??) paid to AKC. An unregistered kennel name does not have to be used and if written in by the breeder can be crossed out. Few field breeders use a registered name but it’s more common in Conformation breeders and minority breeds I’ve been told by a very reputable source. If this has changed I apologize in advance. I understand the point was tying the health guarantee to the kennel name. There are buyers who don’t care about health guarantees, and/or they “can” be difficult to collect on. Carry on
My health guarantee is NOT linked to using my kennel name. I don't have a guarantee--I have a warranty because I just cannot guarantee certain aspects of health. For instance, I bred two OFA excellent parents and got one mildly dysplastic pup. Good hips cannot be guaranteed--they can be bred for and hoped for.
Epilepsy and heart issues cannot be guaranteed because two clear parents can produce affected puppies. Same with several other health issues. I am too loose and not precise enough about using the term guarantee when I mean warranty.
My bad that I didn't realize you were objecting to linking the kennel name requirement to the health guarantee/warranty. But I do still stand by my practice of asking buyers to go elsewhere if they do not want me to microchip and permanently register the puppy.
A person should be happy with their breeder and their breeder's terms and vice versa.
I smell untruth...
In many cases using the kennel name could help in marketing you dog for breeding purposes. Some kennel name carry a lot of clout.
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That’s probably true considering how many puppy buyers couldn’t tell you the difference between a JH and an NFC.
probably true. just alphabet...
Not really in the FT game.
Nope, just wouldn't do it again. Lots of litters to choose from and friends who have litters no one knows about which is even better!!!
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The interwebs devalued kennel names. Pedigrees, performance histories and health clearances are a just a couple clicks away for anyone that cares to look.
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I don't think so. Actual 'lines' --- that stem from a few foundation dogs - are not really a part of the retriever culture anymore. This is because it is very easy to go to pretty much 'anywhere' to get a very well bred dog. Those breeders with kennel names, while still extremely important to the breed, aren't the be all, end all because what they produced is spread throughout most field bred labs.... (and we owe them a great deal for their knowledge and expertise)
confromation labs, or kennels that are focusing on the UK bred labs, or the minority breed field dogs (chessies, etc) that do have kennel names - I think in most instances you would be required to use a kennel name in your puppy's registration. It actually kind of cracks me up because some of the UK breeders this side of the pond had imported dogs from lots of sources and only been breeding for a few years. Not long enough to really establish their own 'line' of dogs - which in my mind is the entire reason for having a kennel name in the first place. Of course all kennels with registered kennel names had to start somewhere and their dogs go back to other kennels most likely. In some cases they probably co-owned their breeding stock with the breeder of their foundation pups, or worked closely with the breeder to ensure that 'type' continued to be produced.
I believe the AKC requires 5 litters for a breeder to register a kennel name. That prevents others from using that name in their pedigree, without persmission (pretty sure).
Really? So when a FT pro or Am is looking to get a pup, they marketing a FCxFC pedigree doesnt help? I think its naive to say the kennel names dont care clout.
Really? FCxFC breeding speaks more to virtually any knowledgeable puppy buyer than Non titled sire bred to non titled bitch regardless if those non titled parents have Candlewood, Watermarks, Seaside...etc in their registered names
Absolutely none!!! It's all about the stud and the bitch, PERIOD
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There may be litters I would lean toward avoiding because of a kennel name, aside from that they mean nothing to me.
With good reason in your case.....nobody likes being Mbezzled
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but if it's a golden, it would be 'Bedazzled' most likely... the ones that show their puppies with cute littlle sparkly bandanas. LOLWith good reason in your case.....nobody likes being Mbezzled
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Maybe you aren't in on the joke. Look up the Tri State Labrador club trial on EE and find Jake on the participating dogs list.
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