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Evan and others,

How common is it to see a dog not respond well to attrition? My pup will go back and forth with me on when she scallops on a water blind, but when I apply a moderate degree of indirect pressure and a strong 'No!' I get much better results.

Does attrition work better on some dogs, and not so well on others? What is your experience with dogs that do not respond well to attrition?
 
So, would you agree that it is safe to say that it is good practice to use attrition first in water work, and if ineffective, then move onto collar correction(s)? I have been told by experienced trainers that it is best to delay the use of the collar around water... but dont we teach them about the collar in relation to water in swimby?.... Is this an old, often misunderstood axiom?
 
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