Is there a written definition of deliver to hand in hrc rule book ? Page 34 in judging standards seem like it could be vague and cause a clean dog to fail
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al kemp
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Each test level, Started, Seasoned, etc. Will state in the rules whether the dog must deliver to hand. Every level except started, the dog is required to deliver to hand. In started the judges will define the area of the line where it is acceptable for the dog to drop the bird on the ground rather than deliver to hand.
Page 34 describes the condition of the bird. A dog could deliver to hand and still crush the bird or otherwise make it unfit for the table. I see this as a separate requirement than simply delivering to hand.
It it would be best to work on and achieve a standard for delivery that leaves the judge nothing to judge. Dog holds firmly but doesn't crush or damage bird, returns to the position you command, and releases the bird on command and not sooner.
Page 34 describes the condition of the bird. A dog could deliver to hand and still crush the bird or otherwise make it unfit for the table. I see this as a separate requirement than simply delivering to hand.
It it would be best to work on and achieve a standard for delivery that leaves the judge nothing to judge. Dog holds firmly but doesn't crush or damage bird, returns to the position you command, and releases the bird on command and not sooner.
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Delivery to hand seems to be a universally accepted standard except in Started. Simply put it means the dog delivers to the handlers hand. The only time I ever saw it questioned was with a dog that was intent on mauling a bird on the ground. Dog was very possessive & did everything it could to keep the duck. Handler picked up the bird while it was on the ground but still in the dogs mouth. I thought the judges made the right call & instructed the handler that this was not acceptable. Dog went on to fail for numerous other control issues.
The need for a written standard begs the question of WHY? Simply train for a dog that returns to heel, sits and delivers birds without mouthing. That dog will meet the standard for delivery to hand at any test or trial.
The need for a written standard begs the question of WHY? Simply train for a dog that returns to heel, sits and delivers birds without mouthing. That dog will meet the standard for delivery to hand at any test or trial.
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...and should be doing so in a Junior/Started Test regardless of whether or not it's required by the rules....in my opinion...
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Amen Brother!
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Absolutely!!!
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To hand means "to hand"; not bring bird to handler, dropping, and having to be told repeatedly to fetch (especially on every retrieve).
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