O.K. here is the story I have 2 1/2 year old ylm that received his Senior Hunter title last spring. Went straight through seniors with no problems. I entered him in his first master test and in the second series after picking up the marks we ran the water blind which was 140 yard water blind with alot of suction. about ten feet from the bird he blows off my whistle (I was in shock) he had never blown off my whistle before ever. There was no recovery, all other whistle attempts were ignored as well. He continued to hunt until he found the bird on his own. Ever since that experience this has become habit, even with the collar on. In training it happens more on the water than on land but even with pressure from the e-collar he will still blow off the whistle and start to hunt. If the heat gets turned up too high for the whistle refusals he will either freeze up and refuse casts or take the heat and hunt anyways. I have never had a dog that has had a problem like this that was this severe any ideas or help would be appreciated. BTW this problem cost me a damn fine run in the qual last weekend which is why I have decided I may need more heads than mine to fix this problem.
Losing control on blinds
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Oh he would sooo love that.. The center of attention in a benign sort of way..Obvious to us. ;-) Let's keep talking about him like he's not in the room.
"Yawn"... Unfortunately Bon as subject matter is rather,,, "ahem" limited...
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Whew Angie AND Melanie in the same thread ! Love it ! hahha
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We have worked with a dog who had this problem. We worked through it a couple of different ways.
1- Have a BB hiding in the field (out of sight) in a position where if the dog blows you off, he can run out and pick up the bumper/bird before the dog gets to it.
2- If he blows you off on two consecutive whistles and you know hes not going to stop, get your running shoes laced up tight and run him down (I would avoid a cold burn). Then get him back in the area where he gave you the finger and enforce that sit with the heeling stick. Once sitting after the heeling stick correction give him the cast and stop him as many times as you can between where he was sitting and where the bumper lies, working up to within inches of the bumper to gain control before you let him get it.
3- If you have help and can make it happen combine #1 and #2 to solidify the lesson.
Just some thoughts!
Good luck with everything,
Kory
1- Have a BB hiding in the field (out of sight) in a position where if the dog blows you off, he can run out and pick up the bumper/bird before the dog gets to it.
2- If he blows you off on two consecutive whistles and you know hes not going to stop, get your running shoes laced up tight and run him down (I would avoid a cold burn). Then get him back in the area where he gave you the finger and enforce that sit with the heeling stick. Once sitting after the heeling stick correction give him the cast and stop him as many times as you can between where he was sitting and where the bumper lies, working up to within inches of the bumper to gain control before you let him get it.
3- If you have help and can make it happen combine #1 and #2 to solidify the lesson.
Just some thoughts!
Good luck with everything,
Kory
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Say it ain't so.... You lost control of your dogs on a blind??? Don't let that be known to your readers.. How will they get up in the morning???Angie,
You ALWAYS speak from experience it seems. So tell us what is your experience here?
I'm wondering if Melanie has experience also?
Of course, neither of you may know that I have also lost control (on blinds that is!) despite apparently knowing what to do to not have it happen!! So maybe it doesn't matter how much Bon has trained dogs!!!
And if we all lighten up----Just sayin'
Cheers
I unfortunately do think it is important that a person that responds to a OP has trained a dog or two... recently..
But it's just the internet and we're all soooo "much cooler online"...
lighter then air regards,,, Just sayin'
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Hey darn it all, it was just getting good Dennis....Angie,
You ALWAYS speak from experience it seems. So tell us what is your experience here?
I'm wondering if Melanie has experience also?
Of course, neither of you may know that I have also lost control (on blinds that is!) despite apparently knowing what to do to not have it happen!! So maybe it doesn't matter how much Bon has trained dogs!!!
And if we all lighten up----Just sayin'
Cheers
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Break out the jello and call for Mary to judge....course I don't expect Bon to do well....
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thanks for all the advice! alot of this stuff I know I should be doing but havn't but I will start and I also got a few new good ideas thanks we will see how it goes. The frustrating part of all this is that he had been running 300 yard blinds very well and we even ran one at 450 yards on land with most of our water blinds between 150 and 200 yards but somewhere along the way he decided he was smarter than me. maybe he's right?
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