[Bridget Bodine]

Happy , I have always wanted a Mini.....

 

[thelast2]

I should become a mini poodle hunt test pro. Your trailer could be a whole bunch of mailboxes for their holes and they don't eat much. Sounds like a money maker deal if you ask me!

Yep I can see it now a Subaru with mail boxes mounted on the roof...LOL Though seriously if a person chooses to spend the money to enter, more power to them. Last I checked Retriever Clubs Operating expense's are paid by there members, more members more entries equals more money spent to help improve said clubs venues.

 

[Happy Gilmore]

Dang, I know I should have been training Mom's poodle "Peaches" all this time. She's a show reject cause her legs are too long. She's pink in color and can jump a 4' fence. Runs with the 'Peakes and keeps them in line around Grandma's house.

 

[Pals]

My thoughts exactly. Who cares.

I think it is fear. Fear of a little dog kickin butt and taking names.

 

[Esylivin]

Pals, I think you are right. My Boykin was the first one to run an AKC master test and he went 6 for 6 qualifying for the Master Nationals. BTW that MN plate looks good in my trophy room. Don't think many labs that have a Master National plate can say they have never failed an AKC hunt test. Also, labs are now eligible to run spaniel hunt tests.

 

[Billie]

I think it is fear. Fear of a little dog kickin butt and taking names.

Yes but "dog" being the operative word here.......

 

[Jerry and Freya]

The only thing I am concerned about is that they might get lost in the cover. So, how do you judge them if you can't see them?

Just a thought,... carry on!

BHB

How can you give a handle if they or you can't see you thru the tall grass?

 

[Happy Gilmore]

How can you give a handle if they or you can't see you thru the tall grass?

I'm sure that all the tests will need to be in no cover moving forward so that the standard of the AKC test can be applied equally to all.

 

[Pals]

Yes but "dog" being the operative word here.......

Those records are sealed.

Jerry--you follow the moving grass with your eyes and you teach them 'left and right' to replace your angle back commands. Serious. Its a lot of fun.

 

[Jerry Beil]

The Labrador Retriever specialty is going on right now in Cheraw:razz:

 

[Bruce MacPherson]

So this is what it comes to? I suppose you can make the argument that a poodle is a poodle no matter what size it is and I know spaniels can run in retriever tests and vice versa but what's next? It doesn't have a thing to do with fear of little dogs it has to do with the initial intention of the game and when you dilute the game to the extent the AKC seems bent on with hunt tests then maybe its time to find a different game.

 

[Pals]

My problem is that my truck dog is a Jack and not a poodle. So she can't run in AKC hunt tests. But she has run in UKC started.

 

[Pals]

I don't think its diluting the "hunt test" Bruce. If someone trains their dog, pays their money....step up. Its a hunt test, not a trial. They only have to meet the standard. That doesn't effect your dog or your dogs performance in the least.

 

[Karen Klotthor]

Lets just hope that as stated before, as judges we do not need to know what kind of dog is running our test before we start. It should not matter what cover we are in, If the test meets the standard . I would hate to have to know in advance I have a mini dog running so can't put my blind where I want it because only one dog will not be seen.

 

[Pals]

I've seen and judged some pretty short Boykins and Tollers. They had no trouble in cover. I would not worry about it.

 

[Bruce MacPherson]

I don't mind running head to head so it will be an opportunity for me to participate in the trial game. I'll get my backside handed to me for awhile but that's ok. I think if you don't think these smaller dogs aren't going to affect the way these tests are set up you got another think comming.

 

[BlaineT]

I think if you don't think these smaller dogs aren't going to affect the way these tests are set up you got another think comming.

Maybe. But I would hope not. I run a 32 lb Boykin in finished tests and have come to the line before knowing he may not see a mark as well or that I'm gonna have trouble seeing him on certain lines to a blind. Never gotten any special treatments from judges. I walk up thinking he's prepared to handle anything and he can do the work expected as well or better than any other dog there and if he doesn't do it, Then so be it.
Have run under several judges that are Boykin owners and they have set up some of the harder finished tests I've run.
Maybe we should worry more about the character of the judge and that they uphold the standard and not worry about the dog being run. But worry about "does the dog do the work?"

 

[Billie]

I think a dog should at least be recognized in the SPORTING GROUP in AKC to be allowed in a sporting dog event through AKC. Poodles of any size have not been recognized as a Sporting breed for years.

 

[Happy Gilmore]

I don't mind running head to head so it will be an opportunity for me to participate in the trial game. I'll get my backside handed to me for awhile but that's ok. I think if you don't think these smaller dogs aren't going to affect the way these tests are set up you got another think comming.

Isn't it one of the duties of a judge to ensure the test they set up is designed so the dogs can see the fall, can be seen running the blind etc? Would a "Mini" owner have a legitimate complaint if a judge sets up a test which all the "normal" sized dogs can see the fall, can be seen running the blind although, a mini is out of sight?

 

[BlaineT]

I think a dog should at least be recognized in the SPORTING GROUP in AKC to be allowed in a sporting dog event through AKC. Poodles of any size have not been recognized as a Sporting breed for years.

That is reasonable for sure.