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David Maddox

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Have a friend looking for suggestions on any impressive chocolate or black/ch males either field trial FC/or AFCs or GRHRCHs that are open for service. Live breeding only.

His bitch is by FC/SRS-Watermarks Texas Welcome out of bitch with ******, Jazztime, Way to go Rocky, Tiger McBunn breedings.

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
Just getting back to consistency, according to retriever results FC Buddy has made it to the 4th series in 9 out of his last 11 trials when handled by Dave Rorem. His last 2 outings were a 3rd and 1st and he has the second highest open points so far this year of any dog.
 
Consistent? Are we talking the dogs themselves or the Line the dogs are out of. My way of thinking is most dogs with upper level titles are usually consistent in themselves; otherwise they wouldn't have the titles. If we are talking consistent lines or dogs (of the brown color) known to throw talent consistently. I'd say most of the younger chocolates/black carrying chocolate; are still very young at this point; with few if any litters and haven't really shown the ability to produce yet. That said I'd look for Blue Thunder, Blue Ryder, Drake, Roux; offspring; as they have consistently produced, talent in many offspring, different breedings, for several generations. Ex; Buddy, Hex, Boot Mastro etc; are all pretty closely related; tend to be my favorite flavor of chocolate. Although I will be looking to other names mentioned on this thread, as they progress.
 
Discussion starter · #13 ·
Hey Mark!!!
Hope all is well. Been a while. Yes, I've heard about Dave's youngster. I may have to give him a call. I've been out of the game since 2010, but can't get away from lurking around the game and studying pedigrees-LOL.

I'd like to thank all of the folks have have taken part is some great suggestions. Most of the dogs mentioned have been under the radar, but I think that the bitch's owner wants a natural that is within OK, ARK, LA area.

I actually know quite a bit about the 4xGRHRCH Chief since I played a small role in the collaboration of his breeding-LOL. My sis in law Scotty Maddox bred Chief.

When I use the term "consistent", I mean dogs that make it to the 4th series weekend after weekend.
 
Have to put in a plug for my boy, 5xGRHRCH UH Big Mamou’s Run Forest Run MH MNH7 ** Gump. He has qualified and passed every Master National since he was 2 years old. He would have had a lot more Grand passes if it hadn’t been for getting dinged for line manners. He is the number two living producing sire in the HRC and had 6 pups pass the last Grand.
 
Consistent? Are we talking the dogs themselves or the Line the dogs are out of. My way of thinking is most dogs with upper level titles are usually consistent in themselves; otherwise they wouldn't have the titles. If we are talking consistent lines or dogs (of the brown color) known to throw talent consistently. I'd say most of the younger chocolates/black carrying chocolate; are still very young at this point; with few if any litters and haven't really shown the ability to produce yet. That said I'd look for Blue Thunder, Blue Ryder, Drake, Roux; offspring; as they have consistently produced, talent in many offspring, different breedings, for several generations. Ex; Buddy, Hex, Boot Mastro etc; are all pretty closely related; tend to be my favorite flavor of chocolate. Although I will be looking to other names mentioned on this thread, as they progress.
What if you could find a stud that had a 100% black performance pedigree but carried the hidden chocolate gene and had absolutely the most proven field trial lines (Shaq, Pow, Chavez, Lean Mac, Lottie) in it's pedigree. What if this stud was clear on all health clearances and I mean everything. And what if this stud consistently finished and placed in all-age stakes. If only such a stud existed......................Chupa!
 
Discussion starter · #17 ·
I really thinks he wants to go choc x choc.
 
I don’t think anyone mentioned this chocolate dog but here is another great pedigree GRHRCH Revitt Up's Power Surge MH MNR

I don’t have a dog in the fight because I don’t have a chocolate or chocolate factored dog to take advantage of his color factoring but Chupa would be my choice! Last time I looked at him he was an FC and now he’s an FC AFC so he must be doing something right!
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
Small world.
I own a half sister to Diesel by FC-Cash. VERY NICE BITCH!!!
I think he's leaning towards the 2 GRHRCHs Chief or Diesel.

I really like Chupa's pedigree myself!!!
 
I kept 2 pups from the breeding of my CLF to Chief..............a male and a female. They are 21 months now. Marking fools; especially the female. I'm taking my time with them (mainly due to the weather now) as they are sensitive.................... but fanatical about birds.

A lot of folks out there with Chief pups to talk to about this.
 
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