[Todd Caswell]

And what do you do when she NO goes??

 

[Todd Caswell]

We have a dog in our training group that did this, didn't matter if it was a HT setup or a FT set up with all stand out guns, the would always no go on the last bird, tons of go, and for certain he saw the birds, it more less became a habit or the routine, owner would try re marking, sweet talking the dog, sending on back ect. basically avoiding the problem. Finally I told him you have to break the cycle, he has to go no matter what I don't care where but go somewhere when sent. After a few times of heeling forward with a burn with increased pressure each time, hasn't had a no go in 3 monthes.

 

[Todd Caswell]

Haven't had to use the collar training her but she has been conditioned so I may give it a try. What's the thoughts on running singles to make sure she always goes on her name or do I keep with the triple. My plan right now is to shorten up things and keep with the triple and try to change her habit back.

I don't believe you are following the same program most of us follow, the dog I described was well forced, and understood pressure and in turn understood that go means go. I don't think your dog would understand the pressure ( by your comments highlighted above) and it would make things worse when applied.

 

[Todd Caswell]

My 2 cents:

She believes she just retrieved the one and only single out there. She is turning around to say "What do you want? I gave you the bird. I don't know of any other birds."

I would give her some pile work (doesn't have to be large piles) in addition to the above suggestions.

Pile work doesn't seem like the answer for a no go on a mark