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Steve.....

No worries I will re-fund everyone's deposits if I cant make this happen

What a shame this will be if this law holds.....WOW!

I can't imagine how many people on both sides of the border this will effect......

Scott

 

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This is new law that the pup must have it's Rabie shot and cant be younger then 4 months old to cross any US border........This changed as of July 16 2014

 

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The Rabie part is definitely new........

 

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After reading Erin's post its seeming like this is going to be a sad ending.......I guess we can't even send pups to the US for Training.....at least not pup training

Pretty sad day I must say.......

 

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OMG!.......You have to be kidding

I could care less if they close the boarder. The way Canadian government treats Americans could care less if US shuts the boarder off. Anyone with even as much as a 30 year old convictions for drunk driving stopped and not allowed into the country. Guns laws that are rediculous and now e-collar banning! Got plenty of top notch US bred dogs no need for anyone to bring a dog in from their. JMO

 

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I agree Bill......But in a 7 week old puppy come on

Why would it be? There is rabies in wild animals such as raccoons, coyotes etc... Frequently... Be easy enough for a dog to get it if it wasn't vaccinated.

 

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Its very interesting that you are basing your opinion around drinking........Hmmh

Not at all, makes no difference to me what so ever. JMHO Those that have said " he must still be drunk" The good book says those without sin cast the first stone. I am sure none of you have ever driven with a drink or two in ya, not a one of ya. If ya have, then the difference between those who cannot cross the border and those who can is if you got caught. One drunk driving in your lifetime no entrance to Canada period.

Thus don't care if the border there is closed or not. My statement t stands, I think there are plenty of top notch field trial bred dogs here, I have no need for Canadian blood in my lines. Not saying they don't have good dogs just saying got plenty of them here to choose from. Nick of Time Ranger has done plenty good for me!

 

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Just applies to pups coming into the US.......We just stop people coming into Canada that have DUI charges......

Here's a thought/question....does this new law apply to pups shipped INTO Canada, or is it just one way? Just curious if this is a double edged sword or just one sided..

 

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Humor me Alain.......what is plan B

Brutal for Canadian breeders that have targeted US market!
Last year i did cross the US border with 8 pups to Logan Intern. Airport (Boston) and flew those all over US.
Never ad any problem with US border agent, i had sign by future owners Quarantine form, but i could see that it was getting more and more complicated.....

Personally guess i will go for B plan!

 

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I'm with you pal.....if there's a will there's away

Scott, the good point is i know that i have to go for B plan.
The bad point is that i have to find that B plan.

There are no problem.......only solution!

 

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This sounds like a fight for the AKC. Hopefully common sense will prevail, but nothing will happen without a lot of noise first.
It is commonplace for government to use a solution for one issue that creates problems for people who were not an issue.
I can't remember the last time I was bitten by a rabid pup.

Scott its a joke........

7 week old pup with rabies Come on really

Mexico can send there street dogs into the US by the truck load and no issue......WHATEVER

 

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i was being facetious

I know you are......I was talking out loud about what a joke this new law is

 

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Oh the humor continues!
So family B, of my 2 that are trying to import puppies a few days after this goes into effect, were told on Friday that they would not be allowed to do the confinement agreement and would have to just bring the puppy home at 4 months instead. They asked for reconsideration and better explained their situation, and this morning received a reply that said this:
Good morning,

CDC is not able to provide pre-approval for entry of dogs into the United States.

Regards,

Importation and Animal Contact Team
CDC/Division of Global Migration and Quarantine

What the hell-so they have gone from 'no' to 'we don't make such decisions'?! (or is this just a soft no?) This is coming from the same contact that did do a pre-approval for my other puppy buyer. This is all very frustrating and I called again this morning but the agents on the phone don't know anything that's not printed on the website and just told me to write to the email address for more information. She did also suggest that I contact the local quarantine office, so that is being done right now and hopefully someone who deals with this more directly will have answers. GAWD so frustrating. I am half tempted to just have these people show up at the border with the puppy to see what happens, but not sure they want to risk the expense and possibly extra heartbreak if they do get turned back.

Erin,

Don't waste your time......

I have been back a forth with the Senior Quarantine veterinary Medical officer

The rule is the rule and it isn't going to change.....

There wont be many quarantine forms being handed out either

Canadian Breeders are done selling pups into the US unless they are 4 months and older.......this is the bottom line

 

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Here is another nail into the coffin for the Canadian breeders by Air Canada now


August 4, 2014

New requirements for transport of puppies and kittens


Air Canada Cargo is changing some of the requirements for the transport of puppies and kittens. For the comfort and well-being of these young animals, please note that effective August 15:
•A valid health certificate from a veterinarian will be required for all puppies and kittens travelling on Air Canada Cargo, including those travelling within Canada.
•The minimum age for puppies and kittens to travel on Air Canada Cargo will change to 12 weeks. Puppies and kitten under 12 weeks of age will not be accepted for carriage.

We thank you for your cooperation. For questions, please contact your local Air Canada Cargo representative, or contact acLive@aircanada.ca.

 

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Exactly Alain.
The problem is this.
As dog people, we are all keenly interested in these new rules.
From an officer perspective, it is small potatoes. Directives from every branch of government come constantly. Prioritizing is the name of the game.
If people want consistency and the letter of the law applied, it means hoping for no lucky breaks.
Just because somebody caught a break doesn't mean that others should feel entitled to it.
Now here is an issue that Cdn breeders should consider before sending their females south for whelping.
If you have a Cdn female whelp over in a neighbouring state, will you be required to pay tax on them when you bring any pups back home that have been sold to Canadian buyers?
I think you might.

Scott I think you would be correct on paying tax........

 

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HI,

I did email the CKC asking what are there position about this new CDC rules?
Has a CKC members for many years now, i expect my organisation to know what are there action plan.

Here is what i got today!


Dear Alain,

Thank you for contacting The Canadian Kennel Club.

We are engaging with the CDC to find a resolution for our members. You can find a letter that we have send to the CDC here: http://www.ckc.ca/en/News/2014/September/Update-CKC-Reaches-Out-to-CDC-around-Agreement-Gu

Trusting this information is helpful. Please do not hesitate to contact us at 1-855-364-7252 for more details.

Thanks for the info Alain........