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Sometime back I posted what I thought was a full bio on me. Anyone is welcome to view it through the search function. Plus I go under my own name and have my location identified. Plus I am in the telephone book. So far as I know, no one has stalked me on the internet or otherwise. And I don't care if anyone knows I like dogs and hunt.

How do the professional dog trainers advertise without potential clients knowing who they are and where they are located? I wonder if any of them have been stalked.

Ken Bora is a poster and advertiser on the RTF. All his personal contact information is available in order to buy his pure maple syrup, which is great by the way. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

Evan Graham is a poster and advertises everywhere with all his contact data in order to sell dvds and training seminars. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

A great number of people (I forget how many millions) have their real names posted on Facebook. And some are RTF folk with alias'.

To those with alias', I guess I don't understand why you don't want anyone to know who you are. I am proud of my service to my country and what I have accomplished in my life. I guess I am just not paranoid about being known.

I guess stalking happens but I'd bet none of them started with identifying their prey on RTF.
 
Now here is a prime example....

Before I would chalk this off to where my first impression of this post indicates that it should go, if I knew something more about you, it would help me in making the correct decision .

john
Just assume that I don't even know which end of a dog barks.

Your name doesn't matter to me, because I don't know YOU.

You are not your name. I am not my name.
You are you, and I am me.
 
Sometime back I posted what I thought was a full bio on me. Anyone is welcome to view it through the search function. Plus I go under my own name and have my location identified. Plus I am in the telephone book. So far as I know, no one has stalked me on the internet or otherwise. And I don't care if anyone knows I like dogs and hunt.

How do the professional dog trainers advertise without potential clients knowing who they are and where they are located? I wonder if any of them have been stalked.

Ken Bora is a poster and advertiser on the RTF. All his personal contact information is available in order to buy his pure maple syrup, which is great by the way. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

Evan Graham is a poster and advertises everywhere with all his contact data in order to sell dvds and training seminars. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

A great number of people (I forget how many millions) have their real names posted on Facebook. And some are RTF folk with alias'.

To those with alias', I guess I don't understand why you don't want anyone to know who you are. I am proud of my service to my country and what I have accomplished in my life. I guess I am just not paranoid about being known.

I guess stalking happens but I'd bet none of them started with identifying their prey on RTF.
Wayne - you haven't heard the facebook stories?? ;-)

For most it is not about anonymity, it's about a base level of internet privacy. We can all figure out who each other is but I don't really care. Why should anyone else? I'm just a guy with a dog but I can tell from content who knows what they're talking about. Whether I agree or not.

You should come on some data collection and business intelligence sales calls with me. You'll see what's being collected on the individual, at the internet level.

I wouldn't suggest you do or don't spill your guts online. It's your choice and what you say, and how you present it - is how I'd perceive your input. Don't matter to me if you're Moondoggy or Wayne Nutt.
 
Sometime back I posted what I thought was a full bio on me. Anyone is welcome to view it through the search function. Plus I go under my own name and have my location identified. Plus I am in the telephone book. So far as I know, no one has stalked me on the internet or otherwise. And I don't care if anyone knows I like dogs and hunt.

How do the professional dog trainers advertise without potential clients knowing who they are and where they are located? I wonder if any of them have been stalked.

Ken Bora is a poster and advertiser on the RTF. All his personal contact information is available in order to buy his pure maple syrup, which is great by the way. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

Evan Graham is a poster and advertises everywhere with all his contact data in order to sell dvds and training seminars. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

A great number of people (I forget how many millions) have their real names posted on Facebook. And some are RTF folk with alias'.

To those with alias', I guess I don't understand why you don't want anyone to know who you are. I am proud of my service to my country and what I have accomplished in my life. I guess I am just not paranoid about being known.

I guess stalking happens but I'd bet none of them started with identifying their prey on RTF.
your last name is actually nutt? Thought that was a handle....:)....just kidding

/Paul
 
Discussion starter · #85 · (Edited)
Just assume that I don't even know which end of a dog barks.

If you say so, I will.

I just dont understand why one with that mind set would often be among the top posters on a thread, deftly using both points and counterpoints attempting to establish their viewpoint.

john
 
If you say so, I will.

I just dont understand why one with that mind set would often be among the top posters on a thread, using both points and counter points attempting to establish their point.

john
Because, it's how I learn.
 
Discussion starter · #90 ·
Even though Copterdoc is a PIA he does help-out at HT's even when there as a mere spectator in his travels. Maybe he was drinking last time, I can't be sure.

Quite a connundrum we have here, One anonymous poster vouching for another:)

john
 
Quite a connundrum we have here, One anonymous poster vouching for another:)

john
I think that was a dig for putting the bird dryer together upside down and backwards.
I have trouble with complicated things like bird dryers.

Helicopters are simple compared to those.
 
Sometime back I posted what I thought was a full bio on me. Anyone is welcome to view it through the search function. Plus I go under my own name and have my location identified. Plus I am in the telephone book. So far as I know, no one has stalked me on the internet or otherwise. And I don't care if anyone knows I like dogs and hunt.

How do the professional dog trainers advertise without potential clients knowing who they are and where they are located? I wonder if any of them have been stalked.

Ken Bora is a poster and advertiser on the RTF. All his personal contact information is available in order to buy his pure maple syrup, which is great by the way. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

Evan Graham is a poster and advertises everywhere with all his contact data in order to sell dvds and training seminars. I wonder if he has ever been stalked.

A great number of people (I forget how many millions) have their real names posted on Facebook. And some are RTF folk with alias'.

To those with alias', I guess I don't understand why you don't want anyone to know who you are. I am proud of my service to my country and what I have accomplished in my life. I guess I am just not paranoid about being known.

I guess stalking happens but I'd bet none of them started with identifying their prey on RTF.
Wayne, apparently you have never been stalked. It is not funny.

I was stalked for nearly a year by Sandra Bullock. It was terrifying. I was afraid to go to sleep at night. Would not want to go through that again.

JS
 
Since you asked,

In 2003 when I came on here, the new prolific posters were fully vetted, this is not the case now....

That one can draw a conclusion on a post without knowing anything about the writer is a given, but in order for it to be even close to accurate the credentials of the writer would be most helpfull.

It is not that these "no names" do not have the right to their opinion, it is when they inundate a goodly number of the threads with it, some times being the TOP poster on the thread, with no way for one to know if their life experience with retrievers warants any consideration of their opinion that it becomes problamatic for me.

john
Thanks for the clarification John :cool:
I understand. (I think)

Believe that what you're suggesting is that folks that offer up training advice should have some dog training credentials..credentials as in the form of some HT /Trial success with something in the showcase to support what's being presented in the form of a suggestion. (right?)

A real name as you propose- could enable one to do some background leg work to determine whether or not the guy/gal has some credibility, and whether or not a suggestion could/should be considered.

What about those "no-names" that offer up a dang good suggestion, yet you're unable to do a "background check"?
What do you do then? Ignore the post?
Strength comes in numbers, and if you're trying to get a point across supporting solid, spot on suggestions that are presented is, to me,.. the way to go.."no name or not".

Think part of the problem with some forums is that when something is suggested that's "out there" or coined as "bad advice" no-one's acknowledging it.
Have a good one John.

And just for you-
B.J. Clark
Swamp
 
I think that was a dig for putting the bird dryer together upside down and backwards.
I have trouble with complicated things like bird dryers.

Helicopters are simple compared to those.
I should have intended a dig! I missed, dang it.

That bird rack gets ignored as we hope some sucker will step up and save club member embarrassment.
 
Discussion starter · #98 · (Edited)
Thanks for the clarification John :cool:
I understand. (I think)

Believe that what you're suggesting is that folks that offer up training advice should have some dog training credentials..credentials as in the form of some HT /Trial success with something in the showcase to support what's being presented in the form of a suggestion. (right?)

A real name as you propose- could enable one to do some background leg work to determine whether or not the guy/gal has some credibility, and whether or not a suggestion could/should be considered.

What about those "no-names" that offer up a dang good suggestion, yet you're unable to do a "background check"?
What do you do then? Ignore the post?
Strength comes in numbers, and if you're trying to get a point across supporting solid, spot on suggestions that are presented is, to me,.. the way to go.."no name or not".

Think part of the problem with some forums is that when something is suggested that's "out there" or coined as "bad advice" no-one's acknowledging it.
Have a good one John.

And just for you-
B.J. Clark
Swamp
Sorta/Kinda..... I have no problem with anyone who can type a keystroke posting on a thread about "whatever"... But yes, as you say in your second sentence," A real name............... could enable one to do some background leg work to determine whether or not the guy/gal has some credibility, and whether or not a suggestion could/should be considered."

Even if just an AMEN I would like to know the makeup the chorus

Now "cutting edge" and "out there" are birds of a different feather

Cutting edge like Bill (Hillman's) and Pat's(Nolan) stuff , in my estimation are worth being given some merit.
But with annonomus suggestions about training methods that are, or appear to be out there, even though it may turn out that they are infact cutting edge,..... one still might want to be leary of them when suggested by someone you have no way of knowing anything about.

Keep on doggin'

john
 
I like you more and more each week.
There, ya see??? ya SEE?! The L-word. :twisted:

That's how quick it can happen. And then the never-ending guilt of breaking yet another heart.

Never putting out my real name, regards.

JS
 
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