[Brokengunz]

I have a young 9 mo old. He doing great with retrieving, steady, honor, doubles. When he retrieves he runs out back with good speed. However he runs past me with the bumper 10-20 feet then heels. This his hurting focus on multiple retrieves. Looking for some ideas on how to get him to stop.

 

[ndk3819]

My young female (very speedy dog) was doing the same thing, Some returns i started whistle stopping here just short of me then commanding her to heel. Other returns a few feet short of me I would command her heel. If she looped wide I would reinforce with heel, nick, heel.

 

[BonMallari]

1.try some simple retrieves with either a fence, or a hedgerow, some sort of barrier behind you, cut off the dog's escape route

2. practice only the return in your OB yard work....start with the dog about 20 ft from you with a bumper in its mouth...call the dog in...do NOT accept anything except a quick heel to attention

3. when the dog learns that nothing else is acceptable, take it to the field

 

[steve schreiner]

1.try some simple retrieves with either a fence, or a hedgerow, some sort of barrier behind you, cut off the dog's escape route

2. practice only the return in your OB yard work....start with the dog about 20 ft from you with a bumper in its mouth...call the dog in...do NOT accept anything except a quick heel to attention

3. when the dog learns that nothing else is acceptable, take it to the field

Back up to the truck when in the field ....in the yard back up to the house, shed, or any building ...just hand toss bumpers ...work the return not the marking or distance...A bad habit easily corrected...Steve S

 

[Brokengunz]

thanks for the replys and pms, all are very helpful. puting the wall in front of him was the best one. DUHH>

thanks

 

[FOM]

I'd suggest maybe a 4 pole holding blind as your "wall"...this would remind you to practice holding blind manners, too.

Also if that little extra loop is causing lack of focus on the marks, I'd suggest two things - slow down when sending for memory marks, give the dog time to refocus, all too often I see people grab the bird and when the dog barely gets in position and looking out they send them. Second, don't do so many multiple marks until you get the return cleaned up.

FOM

 

[KwickLabs]

Well you can "block him" by using a wall or whistle sit him before he arrives, but the best thing to do is teach him to slow down and heel properly. Many assume a young, fast dog will simply come to heel spontaneously, but it is an OB, yard "thing". When they won't or can't, something they should know wasn't taught.

The first position is a front sit wearing an OB lead (6') with a bumper in his mouth. Use the lead and teach (pull) the dog to swing around (fluid arm motion) as you step back on the side he is supposed to heel/sit on. Then step forward and finish (easy, relaxed and under control). When he is proficient at this (up close and not one lesson), move the dog to a remote front sit at the end of the 6' lead (with a bumper in his mouth) and repeat, here, "swing", step forward and deliver. Finally, move to a checkcord, increase the distance and continue reinforcing the new expectation adding in the speed factor.

The step forward and hand to your side (sans checkcord) are physical cues to slow down, pivot and sit. Eventually, physical cues are minimized or eliminated (especially the step forward and back).

 

[22899]

Well you can "block him" by using a wall or whistle sit him before he arrives, but the best thing to do is teach him to slow down and heel properly. Many assume a young, fast dog will simply come to heel spontaneously, but it is an OB, yard "thing". When they won't or can't, something they should know wasn't taught.

The first position is a front sit wearing an OB lead (6') with a bumper in his mouth. Use the lead and teach (pull) the dog to swing around (fluid arm motion) as you step back on the side he is supposed to heel/sit on. Then step forward and finish (easy, relaxed and under control). When he is proficient at this (up close and not one lesson), move the dog to a remote front sit at the end of the 6' lead (with a bumper in his mouth) and repeat, here, "swing", step forward and deliver. Finally, move to a checkcord, increase the distance and continue reinforcing the new expectation adding in the speed factor.

The step forward and hand to your side (sans checkcord) are physical cues to slow down, pivot and sit. Eventually, physical cues are minimized or eliminated (especially the step forward and back).

I agree with Kwicks post.. Front finish.. then the command Heel.