[tmwtrfwler]

Gun season is 7 weeks long (deer) with no gap add 7 Sun that is an extra week.So do you give back a week? It is just different and I will go with the flow but if it passes and I don't hunt Sun I will lose 7 days of my season so it is a trade off.

they'll just add a split similar to the waterfowl seasons.....

 

[22899]

I live and hunt in Va and don't think most hunters are fools and unsafe but I am not for hunting on Sunday. I think it gives me and the animals the chance to relax, move stands, dogs to rest and so on. All everyone wants to talk about is ethics and sportsmanship the pray should have a day off to. jmo and not based on Religion.Plus football is on.

Classact

You didnt strike a nerve!
In Fact later in the thread you clarified what you tried to say!
We actually agree!
You said you would VOTE to allow hunting on sunday,, but would make it a PERSONAL decision not to do so.

I respect that.

Dog trainerforGod thinks we should be better spending our time in church on sunday!!

I respect her opinion..

What I have a problem with is when people (legislators) have a agenda to make THEIR PERSONAL beliefs LAWS!!!

If You personally think it wrong to hunt on sunday... stay home.. Less crowding for others!! But,, If you wanna make it a LAW,, Ya better be prepared fpor the differences of opinion....

No nerves were struck!!
Just voicing my side of the argument!
I bet ya kin tell,,, I is NOT a big fan of Government!!...Call me a Kook!:razz:

I remember back in the 55MPH regulation days (oil embargo),,bein out in the middle of Wyoming drivin 55 cause the Government said I had to!! I have never felt so silly! And I do some REALLLLLY silly things!

I dont care if Ya smoke,, drink,,, do drugs,, worship toads, dance nekid, say a prayer at the flagpole at school,, dont say the word "God" in the pledge,, or a million other things!! Its YOUR BUSINESS!!! I choose to stay out of it!!

I wish 'Some" would stay out of mine!!

Gooser

 

[classact2731]

Classact

You didnt strike a nerve!
In Fact later in the thread you clarified what you tried to say!
We actually agree!
You said you would VOTE to allow hunting on sunday,, but would make it a PERSONAL decision not to do so.

I respect that.

Dog trainerforGod thinks we should be better spending our time in church on sunday!!

I respect her opinion..

What I have a problem with is when people (legislators) have a agenda to make THEIR PERSONAL beliefs LAWS!!!

If You personally think it wrong to hunt on sunday... stay home.. Less crowding for others!! But,, If you wanna make it a LAW,, Ya better be prepared fpor the differences of opinion....

No nerves were struck!!
Just voicing my side of the argument!
I bet ya kin tell,,, I is NOT a big fan of Government!!...Call me a Kook!:razz:

I remember back in the 55MPH regulation days (oil embargo),,bein out in the middle of Wyoming drivin 55 cause the Government said I had to!! I have never felt so silly! And I do some REALLLLLY silly things!

I dont care if Ya smoke,, drink,,, do drugs,, worship toads, dance nekid, say a prayer at the flagpole at school,, dont say the word "God" in the pledge,, or a million other things!! Its YOUR BUSINESS!!! I choose to stay out of it!!

I wish 'Some" would stay out of mine!!

Gooser

I agree live and let be. lol

 

[Kenneth Niles Bora]

Ken - you are spot on as well sir.

On a unrelated note my family has a camp on Champlain just outside of Milton, both my parents and grandparents are UVM alums and cousins still live in Burlington....Beautiful country up there.

Thanks for your support.

Then You Know in the word Milton, the T is silent.;-)
And MooseGooser, Sir. I completely agree with everything you have typed in this thread. Saved me a bunch of time. I gotta load the truck. Storm front in the A.M. will have the birds moving and low. Oh wait it's Sunday on the morrow! I'll be setting decoys with a Chesapeake. And Vicky, This thread bothered me all day at work. Yes I work Saturdays, as was typed not everyone works regular weeks or hours even. Check the time stamp. I am just home, feed the dogs and am getting set for first light. Anyway I was going to go off and rant away. As soon as I was home (now) on your post about your horses and being able to leave your farm one day a week.
But reading the profound wisdom of Moosegooser...........
all that comes to mind now is.....Bless your heart.


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[HPL]

The worst injustice in Va is people who put up blinds not to hunt but so you can not hunt. IMO

Please explain the situation with blinds.

 

[classact2731]

Please explain the situation with blinds.

Here in Va if you if you build and license a stationary blind no one can hunt within 500 yards of the blind. The problem is people who don't hunt build and license blinds to stop you from hunting in the area. this is what are game warden advises them to do and then places you have hunted for 30 years gone.

 

[luvmylabs23139]

I think this is a fair sentiment shared by some hunters in the Commonwealth. It certainly has been engrained over generations due to the ban on Sunday hunting.

You didn't clearly state in your post above if you were against our efforts for a repeal. There are some, and I believe you are one, who wouldn't make the personal choice to hunt on Sunday but are not against the repeal. I could be wrong. But I do know one thing....football is on isn't the answer! j/k

I live in NC now but I lived in VA for a while. If I still lived there I would be against it because during deer season Sunday was the only day I didn't have packs of deer dogs running thru my 10 acres!

 

[mlopez]

Here in Va if you if you build and license a stationary blind no one can hunt within 500 yards of the blind. The problem is people who don't hunt build and license blinds to stop you from hunting in the area. this is what are game warden advises them to do and then places you have hunted for 30 years gone.

WHAT?! That just seems ridiculous. The idea is that you don't want people hunting too close to each other, right? But shouldn't there have to be a person in the blind for that rule to apply? Is there anything you can do if the blind is never used?

 

[HPL]

Here in Va if you if you build and license a stationary blind no one can hunt within 500 yards of the blind. The problem is people who don't hunt build and license blinds to stop you from hunting in the area. this is what are game warden advises them to do and then places you have hunted for 30 years gone.

I'm assuming we are talking about public lands and blinds for rifle hunting?

 

[Vicky Trainor]

Then You Know in the word Milton, the T is silent.;-)
And MooseGooser, Sir. I completely agree with everything you have typed in this thread. Saved me a bunch of time. I gotta load the truck. Storm front in the A.M. will have the birds moving and low. Oh wait it's Sunday on the morrow! I'll be setting decoys with a Chesapeake. And Vicky, This thread bothered me all day at work. Yes I work Saturdays, as was typed not everyone works regular weeks or hours even. Check the time stamp. I am just home, feed the dogs and am getting set for first light. Anyway I was going to go off and rant away. As soon as I was home (now) on your post about your horses and being able to leave your farm one day a week.
But reading the profound wisdom of Moosegooser...........
all that comes to mind now is.....Bless your heart.


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As I said in my post previously, I am just showing another side of the issue. And, btw, it's not only the horses I worry about but also my grandkids, great grandson, personal dogs and the training dogs here which far outnumber my horses.

Most, if not all, members of RTF are responsible, knowledgeable hunters. That is not the case in some of the leased wooded areas in my neighborhood. The wooded property which adjoins my property is owned by a non-county resident who leases it to whoever can pay his price. In the past, some of the "hunters" he has leased the property to have shown little common sense in setting up their deer stands. So, yes, I do worry about leaving the property or even being out in my field airing or training dogs when I know these yahoos are in the woods.....doesn't matter if it's on Sunday or any other day of the week. It's just nice to have one day a week when I don't have to worry.

If that makes you want to rant....well....Bless Your Heart.

 

[j towne]

Ditto Vicky! I hunt a lot. Haven't hunted a day on Sunday. Sunday mornings should be spent in church and for building relationships with your family.

Are you saying relationship cant be built in a duck blind?

In maryland we can't hunt watrfowl on sundays but I'm ok with that. I think that is a reason tha we get a full 60 day duck season but certain counties are open for deer hunting on private land. Pick ad choose your battles. Start in the counties that have the highest # of deer hit by cars and try to get a couple sundays here and thre. Or a Sunday youth hunt. I can't bring my nephews hunting because they are in schoo all week then have football games on sat. Sunday is the only day I can get them out.

 

[classact2731]

I'm assuming we are talking about public lands and blinds for rifle hunting?

No, any duck blind

 

[classact2731]

WHAT?! That just seems ridiculous. The idea is that you don't want people hunting too close to each other, right? But shouldn't there have to be a person in the blind for that rule to apply? Is there anything you can do if the blind is never used?

Nobody has to be in the blind for this reg to apply.

 

[tmwtrfwler]

I live in NC now but I lived in VA for a while. If I still lived there I would be against it because during deer season Sunday was the only day I didn't have packs of deer dogs running thru my 10 acres!

If it was your 10 acres and you didn't allow hunting then you had the opportunity to curtail the problem. That's what the VGIF Wardens are for. This is no reason to support a ban on Sunday hunting. It's personal responsibility to do so.

 

[tmwtrfwler]

The wooded property which adjoins my property is owned by a non-county resident who leases it to whoever can pay his price. In the past, some of the "hunters" he has leased the property to have shown little common sense in setting up their deer stands.

You have the ability to contact the landowner and the members of the deer club to remedy this. If they're putting deer stands on your property line for example simply approach them, build a relationship with them, and educate them on your desires and concerns. There's no reason to be fearful on your own land if you do your due diligence.

 

[tmwtrfwler]

Regarding the blind topic in Virginia it relates only to duck blinds on public waters east of I-95. The regs state that no blind can be closer than 500 yards from another blind.

So what we have in VA are 'dummy blinds' that landowners will put up with no intention to hunt just to lock up their shoreline to keep hunters away. You also can't float hunt out of a boat within 500 yards of that blind.

These blinds do not have to be occupied. You can't hunt within 500 yards of them ever.

The real kicker is that all it has to be is tagged with a Blind Tag issued by the VDGIF and the current years sticker. It only has to be able to conceal a hunter so you'll see a lot of blinds that are 4 posts with some burlap on it to count.

It's really too bad. But we can go on for days on this topic. I'll try to keep on track with the Sunday hunting topic.

 

[22899]

Are there not laws in Virginia that dictate Hunting/hunters can NOT be harassed, or their day disturbed when in the act of hunting??

Seems to me that if I owned land,,, and I had a neighbor (Public or Private ownership) who didnt like my hunting,, and deliberatly built a fake blind within 500 yards of MY in use blind,,,,,...I woud be the one who would be in court tryin to have a judge pinch my neigbors ear to straighten up!

I think this is a reason to have the Lawyers and court systems!!
Battles like this are won in court. Hunters have to quit rolling over and accepting blatent harrasment. If thats what most do,,,, well .......

Sounds like Virginias got another law that needs "tweeked" Do You see my point about legislators creating more "Laws"? We have to many! We live in a suposed Free society. How did that law come about? Was it originally intended to stop slob hunters from setting up near anothers productive blind??? I bet so,, but you see with Laws ,,,, there are ways to use them in different ways!!

If the Virginia Game and fish is supporting the action of ANTIs building non use blinds to keep others fron hunting,, I would think that when and IF they hold public meetings,, there would be a HUGE turn out from hunters holding the head of that agencys feet to the fire!! There are prolly ways to get that turd out of the manure.

In Colorado,, you cannot build permanent duck blinds on public lands. You may NOT leave portable blinds or decoys out overnight,, or when not hunting. They must be '"IN USE"
You are not suposed to break for lunch, and leave your decoy spread in place ORR walk to "Jump shoot" birds! In other word,, blinds and decoy spreads must be occupied.

Gooser

 

[luvmylabs23139]

If it was your 10 acres and you didn't allow hunting then you had the opportunity to curtail the problem. That's what the VGIF Wardens are for. This is no reason to support a ban on Sunday hunting. It's personal responsibility to do so.

HA HA HA!!! I tried. Our property backed up to 1500 acres leased by a hunt club. To quote the game wardens " dogs don't know property lines."

Animal control stated that the dogs would have to be on our property when they got there for them to do anything and even then most of the laws do not apply. A hunter could come on your property even if posted to retrieve a deer dog without your permission as long as they are not armed.

 

[22899]

Bad nieghbors are bad neighbors no matter what circumstance!!

And I know for sure they are a pain in the arse to deal with!

Gooser

 

[Swampbilly]

MooseGooser-- Are there not laws in Virginia that dictate Hunting/hunters can NOT be harassed, or their day disturbed when in the act of hunting??

Gooser',..Yes there are,..and in fact, in the last few years Game Wardens are recognizing the frustrations felt by most who Duckhunt, and do it legally, yet still get harrased..Just last year there was a case locally where a landowner tossed corn in the water at 6:30 am and all over the shore and on her dock, ..started hollering/screaming and yelling while standing on her dock while playing a boom box wide open

The hunters in a floatin' blind called the G.W.,..picked him up and took him out there as he was able to observe all of this. WHILE in the boat with the duckehunters, he WATCHED the woman in action , (unknowing to her), and called her up from his cell to say "hello"..;-)

She got ticketed for harassment and interrupting an otherwise legal hunt.

Here's a fine example of what goes on around here..below is a "blind" that's licensed ONLY to keep YOU from hunting legally within 500yds. of it

A "blind" as described in our laws has to be "big enough, and to the size and strength to hold and conceal one or more hunters", and built for "purposes of hunting"...