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Dave Mirek

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I am one pass away from a seasoned title and have had trouble with the walk up. She will sit when I blow thw whistle and when the bird is in the air but as soon as it is on the ground she is off and I cant stop her. She has never broke in any other situation and has never failed another element of the test.

My question is what drills can I do by myself to work on this? I train all week by myself and occasionally with groups on wknds, but are there any concepts that I can do on my own?

All suggestions welcomed.

Thanks,
Dave
 
When I was training for Seasoned (and still, since I run a bunch of Upland, too), I would walk with a bumper and the dog at heal, and randomly throw it with no whistle and no "sit" command (of course you'll have to say sit in the beginning). He learned that he had to stop whenever a bird is in the air and not go until released.
 
I didn't let my dog pick up the bird when training for walk ups. What I wanted the dog to do was sit and that is all. The bonus for them will be at the test, when she gets to pick it up. After the test weekend and we are training again, its the same thing, she will not be sent to pick up the bird.
 
I train by myself the majority of the time and had to teach a walk-up alone. I used a strong verbal "sit", with an ecollar on, the controller in one hand and a doken or bumper in the other which I threw for the mark. I've also used a winger with the controller for it in one hand and the ecollar controller in the other. If she moved after the "sit", she got nicked with a repeated "sit" and I picked up the mark myself. She doesn't get to pick up a mark in training unless her butt stays on the ground.

She is the first dog I have trained for HT or bird retrieving and she has not broke on a walk-up with me using a verbal "sit". She has broke at other times, but not on walk-ups.
 
I am one pass away from a seasoned title and have had trouble with the walk up. She will sit when I blow thw whistle and when the bird is in the air but as soon as it is on the ground she is off and I cant stop her. She has never broke in any other situation and has never failed another element of the test.

My question is what drills can I do by myself to work on this? I train all week by myself and occasionally with groups on wknds, but are there any concepts that I can do on my own?

All suggestions welcomed.

Thanks,
Dave
You ask what drills to work on this....Simple answer....Obedience....:)
 
After watching the drill, the question remains, how do you "create" a steady dog? The usual replies focus on making the dog sit. Afterall if he remains on sit, the problem is solved. However, there is a catch to the expectations of a solid sit. The most important one is the dog must be focused (somewhat) on the handler. This means being responsive.

If you noticed in the video, the dog is expected to heel off lead changing directions (left, right and backwards, moving at different speeds), put in a down position and "waiting" for the handler to "go about his business" (picking up spent popper casings, replacing ducks near the wingers and loading poppers for the next pass).

The dog is focused on what the handler decides to do next because the session is not just about retrieving ducks.....to repeat.....it's all about what the handler decides to have the dog do next. The dog knows this is the primary "expectation".

The point is a steady dog is always aware of who is in charge. The dog did not become steady just because sit was "hammered home". Sit is more of a command to be ready for what is next. It's called being responsive.

What is not seen in the video are the simpler teaching sessions which give more foundation to the standard. A dog that sits and then thinks "OK, what's next? is very different from one that has done the "token sit" and is a blink away from being self-employed.

There are early training drills which focus and control a dog's forward momentum through the handler. The prep/teaching OB drills provide an entirely different perspective of "sit" for a dog.

Here's a link to one such technique develped by Pat Nolan. I found his approach workable and extremely effective.

Steady Retriever - Approach
 
When I was training for Seasoned (and still, since I run a bunch of Upland, too), I would walk with a bumper and the dog at heal, and randomly throw it with no whistle and no "sit" command (of course you'll have to say sit in the beginning). He learned that he had to stop whenever a bird is in the air and not go until released.
X2 but use a hidden station and a real bird, maybe even a live flyer (no whistle, no sit, you want the correction). Then before releasing her back up and get a heel correction. This does two things, enforces the sit-heel and provides you with a tool you can use during a test, you can back up, training her to move back with you can stop the break
 
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