[captainjack]

Why would you give a correction for a dog wanting to get in water? Bad idea.

Casting 101 says that verbal drives the dog back, and silent gets change in direction. Also bad idea to give verbal here.

No to abandoning literal casting in training as well.

Run advanced water tune up drills to get dog comfortable running by water and when you do run by early water, make sure it's to get in late water. Like run by an early cove to get in bigger water. Never just run by water and not get in later.

 

[captainjack]

Tune up drills are taught by handling to a very tight line and repeated over a series of days. There is no correction(not that dogs wouldn't feel the handling as pressure).

You need more than one or two blinds and they all don't need the exact same concept. You can go with a 3 or 4 peat, straining with a get in that is relatively simple, then transition to the difficult blind you are trying to run, then finish with a get in and stay in til the end of the pond. The "concept" is comfort running near water but not getting in right away.

 

[captainjack]

Exactly, I was taught the exact OPPOSITE, after a correction of any kind give the same cast or less cast.

Who's training who here?

Agree. If you ever want the dog to learn what your arm position means, you got to stick with the literal cast in training. Ir your dog will think a walking over cast means 3 degree angle back.

 

[captainjack]

You're quick Darin.
Come on though, you preach this stuff. Be consistent in your commands. You know that was not what you do in training. With a dog that is to the literal casting stage, of course.

 

[captainjack]

Do y'all think the dog is really just wanting to get into water or is he just blowing you off because he thinks he knows better. Is this a behavior that is shown consistently and on either side? If the water was on the left would he still Do the same thing?

Wouldn't that change a little how you went about correcting it?

It wouldn't matter to me if the dog was watery or the dog was blowing me off to go get in the water.

The reason is that, regardless of the dog's intentions m, you are inadvertently teaching the dog not to get in the water.